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Here we are recording and talking to Paul Hallam. The date is Thursday the 12th of December 2024. We're at Talamba. Yep. So welcome Paul. Thanks. Thanks. Lovely to have your time. And this is one of a series of interviews that we're doing of staff of Waters just to gather a bit of a history and. Here we are recording and talking to Paul Hallam. The date is Thursday the 12th of December 2024. We're at Talamba. Yep. So welcome Paul. Thanks. Thanks. Lovely to have your time. And this is one of a series of interviews that we're doing of staff of Waters just to gather a bit of a history and.
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A you know, a story of the of the shop so. A you know, a story of the of the shop so.
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Paul, just in overview, when, when were you at Waters then? When did I start? Yeah. What years were years been 19701970. And how long were you there? 6 1/2 years, Yeah, OK. Paul, just in overview, when, when were you at Waters then? When did I start? Yeah. What years were years been 19701970. And how long were you there? 6 1/2 years, Yeah, OK.
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And what did you, what sort of roles did you do there? I worked in the Maori department. Yeah. With Gordon Parsons. Yeah. And Barry Williamson, He was in White Woods with Howard. OK, so it was that one department ran into the hour. OK. Right. And. And what did you, what sort of roles did you do there? I worked in the Maori department. Yeah. With Gordon Parsons. Yeah. And Barry Williamson, He was in White Woods with Howard. OK, so it was that one department ran into the hour. OK. Right. And.
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So that was obviously mowers was at other power equipment. Yeah, all the all whatever water sold. But we also did repairs down in the workshop. OK. We've hired for Blackmore and Bob David, OK. Now he was he was a good boat, but my job was also is to take bitstand the workshop what they needed. OK. So OK. How I got into the repair side of it. OK. So you did sales and repairs. Yeah. Did you? Yeah, yeah. So that was obviously mowers was at other power equipment. Yeah, all the all whatever water sold. But we also did repairs down in the workshop. OK. We've hired for Blackmore and Bob David, OK. Now he was he was a good boat, but my job was also is to take bitstand the workshop what they needed. OK. So OK. How I got into the repair side of it. OK. So you did sales and repairs. Yeah. Did you? Yeah, yeah.
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And was that a big department? Was it a busy part of the business? Yeah, it was because it well, as you can imagine today with little motors now. And was that a big department? Was it a busy part of the business? Yeah, it was because it well, as you can imagine today with little motors now.
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They're still launched thermos, so yeah. Yeah. So they were good bosses, both of them. So. Yeah. So they taught me plenty of things that I didn't know. Never seen a petrol mower before it came out from England. Oh, OK. They're all push, push mowers. Yeah. OK. So it was all new to me. And so how did you end up then in the mower department if you hadn't seen one before? They're still launched thermos, so yeah. Yeah. So they were good bosses, both of them. So. Yeah. So they taught me plenty of things that I didn't know. Never seen a petrol mower before it came out from England. Oh, OK. They're all push, push mowers. Yeah. OK. So it was all new to me. And so how did you end up then in the mower department if you hadn't seen one before?
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Well, when I went in for the job originally, Howard's office was in the mower white goods, and that's where he interviewed me. OK. I didn't know whether I got the job until I got home and there was a telegram saying that I got the job. Back in those days, you could just walk in and ask if there was any work. Not through an agency like it is today. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that was what I did. I went in with not much of A resume because I'd come for me. Yeah. Well, when I went in for the job originally, Howard's office was in the mower white goods, and that's where he interviewed me. OK. I didn't know whether I got the job until I got home and there was a telegram saying that I got the job. Back in those days, you could just walk in and ask if there was any work. Not through an agency like it is today. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that was what I did. I went in with not much of A resume because I'd come for me. Yeah.
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Give me a good chance. And by the time you got home, there was a telegram. Yeah. Isn't that extraordinary. And we were on the hospital at the time. OK. We moved to a unit. How long after that? Yeah. We were at from here. Yeah. Wow. So, yeah, it was good. Yeah. And it is a better way of doing it because you get to talk to the people that own the store. You're not going through an agency. He doesn't know anything about the store. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a good chance. And by the time you got home, there was a telegram. Yeah. Isn't that extraordinary. And we were on the hospital at the time. OK. We moved to a unit. How long after that? Yeah. We were at from here. Yeah. Wow. So, yeah, it was good. Yeah. And it is a better way of doing it because you get to talk to the people that own the store. You're not going through an agency. He doesn't know anything about the store. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So I mean, what was that like? You walked in off the street, you presumably spoke to someone and said, can I speak to someone about? So I mean, what was that like? You walked in off the street, you presumably spoke to someone and said, can I speak to someone about?
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Yeah, yeah. And they took you up to Howard's? Yeah, on that floor. Yeah, yeah. And they took you up to Howard's? Yeah, on that floor.
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Yeah, and that's where he started me on that floor. Thank you. Never. I never went into the white woods as far as selling things, but it was next to that department. Uh-huh. Our camera ran into that. Uh-huh. So, yeah. So we were just selling mowers. I've actually still got my salesman's book. OK from Waters. We're telling you about all the lawn mowers that you were selling. Wow. So I've got that there, which if that is any interest, you can have it. Sure. Well, that would be. That's the. Yeah, and that's where he started me on that floor. Thank you. Never. I never went into the white woods as far as selling things, but it was next to that department. Uh-huh. Our camera ran into that. Uh-huh. So, yeah. So we were just selling mowers. I've actually still got my salesman's book. OK from Waters. We're telling you about all the lawn mowers that you were selling. Wow. So I've got that there, which if that is any interest, you can have it. Sure. Well, that would be. That's the.
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Thing which I'm trying to gather up. Thing which I'm trying to gather up.
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Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah, that's the book you got when you were selling them out. So and that was back in the old days with the wind up starters. Yeah, of course I'd forgotten about the wind up starter. Yeah. So, but yeah, now I got to learn all about that. The only reason I left waters I still would be there is I got poached a lot bigger money, a lot better set up. So unfortunately. Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah, that's the book you got when you were selling them out. So and that was back in the old days with the wind up starters. Yeah, of course I'd forgotten about the wind up starter. Yeah. So, but yeah, now I got to learn all about that. The only reason I left waters I still would be there is I got poached a lot bigger money, a lot better set up. So unfortunately.
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That was why I left wards. Yeah, yeah. That was why I left wards. Yeah, yeah.
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Back in those days, it was collar on toy. Yeah. No. OK. Yeah, yeah. Had to be lower than you. Yes. You you follow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And take green. Make sure of that. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty tough boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. Ted. What did you. Back in those days, it was collar on toy. Yeah. No. OK. Yeah, yeah. Had to be lower than you. Yes. You you follow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And take green. Make sure of that. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty tough boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. Ted. What did you.
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Like about the job? Like about the job?
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Talking. No, I was talking to people. Anyway. It was, yeah, the environment was good. Nobody was sort of, let us say Kate Green was tough. That was his job. But I mean, nobody in any of the department really were hard to get on with. They're all good right down. I did a bit of a stint in the paint department, actually. I remember, but that was only to fill in while somebody was. That was a big gym. Talking. No, I was talking to people. Anyway. It was, yeah, the environment was good. Nobody was sort of, let us say Kate Green was tough. That was his job. But I mean, nobody in any of the department really were hard to get on with. They're all good right down. I did a bit of a stint in the paint department, actually. I remember, but that was only to fill in while somebody was. That was a big gym.
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Forgot gym's last night, he passed away a few while ago. Forgot gym's last night, he passed away a few while ago.
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And Gray, Kevin Gray, he was the old Southern. He was old at that time. And Gray, Kevin Gray, he was the old Southern. He was old at that time.
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I'm pretty clear in that we keep up with me. So do you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll see him now and again, but not keep up with them. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've got my old boss Gordon passes. He's still going. Yeah. OK. He's up in Queensland, so we're going to try and get to see him anyway. And you, you were there till 1976, so. Yeah. I'm pretty clear in that we keep up with me. So do you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll see him now and again, but not keep up with them. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've got my old boss Gordon passes. He's still going. Yeah. OK. He's up in Queensland, so we're going to try and get to see him anyway. And you, you were there till 1976, so. Yeah.
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What do you remember about the shop? And, and you know, this sort of, it was a typical old fashioned shop. Yes. Yeah. The pipes with the paperwork you put in the tube and you send it up in the office. And yeah, it was like walking into a well today. You'd think it was an antiques or a shop because yeah, yeah. No, it was all all set out. Well, yeah, everybody had their own department to look after them. What do you remember about the shop? And, and you know, this sort of, it was a typical old fashioned shop. Yes. Yeah. The pipes with the paperwork you put in the tube and you send it up in the office. And yeah, it was like walking into a well today. You'd think it was an antiques or a shop because yeah, yeah. No, it was all all set out. Well, yeah, everybody had their own department to look after them.
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Yeah, you got to know everybody. They had a social club going. We went shooting one time on a farm. We did, really. Yeah, we did. We did a rally like. Yeah, you got to know everybody. They had a social club going. We went shooting one time on a farm. We did, really. Yeah, we did. We did a rally like.
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Treasure hunt rally. Yeah, we did that. You come. Bob Duncan is another one. Was there for a long while. Treasure hunt rally. Yeah, we did that. You come. Bob Duncan is another one. Was there for a long while.
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He was one of my bosses at one stage too. I've been acting, yeah, so that was good. We had all that and there were quite a few young people there, so you had people your age. He was one of my bosses at one stage too. I've been acting, yeah, so that was good. We had all that and there were quite a few young people there, so you had people your age.
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Old people. I think Gordon, Gordon and all the others are all 10 years older than me. Old people. I think Gordon, Gordon and all the others are all 10 years older than me.
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My bosses. So how old were you when you started in 1970? Fifteen and 10 months or whatever it was. Yeah. OK. Yeah. When you're allowed to. OK. Yeah. 15 and 9/15/10. So you were just a young. And. Yeah. Yeah. I had heard that from others that one of the good things when you started young is that there are other young kids around and you sort of all grew up together. Yeah. We got to know each other well. I met Marion Waters. Yeah. There you go. My bosses. So how old were you when you started in 1970? Fifteen and 10 months or whatever it was. Yeah. OK. Yeah. When you're allowed to. OK. Yeah. 15 and 9/15/10. So you were just a young. And. Yeah. Yeah. I had heard that from others that one of the good things when you started young is that there are other young kids around and you sort of all grew up together. Yeah. We got to know each other well. I met Marion Waters. Yeah. There you go.
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So we've been married for 48 years. So yeah, it's sort of, there's quite a few that were the same that met people in the school. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was good. That's good. And. So we've been married for 48 years. So yeah, it's sort of, there's quite a few that were the same that met people in the school. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was good. That's good. And.
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So your customers then were just householders looking for a mower with a yeah, mostly household people that look at the mows. But they got to the stage where they got to know me. Yes. And it was good because they're coming to the Gordon to take could I help you? And I want to call the pool. So it was getting getting good. You got to know the people and they got to know you. And that still happens today. I still got people bumping in the street. So your customers then were just householders looking for a mower with a yeah, mostly household people that look at the mows. But they got to the stage where they got to know me. Yes. And it was good because they're coming to the Gordon to take could I help you? And I want to call the pool. So it was getting getting good. You got to know the people and they got to know you. And that still happens today. I still got people bumping in the street.
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That knows me from waters or from. That knows me from waters or from.
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Yeah. Are there any customers that stand out from from those days? You know anyone? Yeah, Look, there's there's a few, but I, I can't remember off the names here. Yeah, sure. There's a chap around the property on Cabbage Tree Lane. It was, it was a top bloke, but he passed away when he rolled his tractor and up. For the love of me, I can't remember his name. He was a great bloke. Yeah, he was a very. Yeah. Are there any customers that stand out from from those days? You know anyone? Yeah, Look, there's there's a few, but I, I can't remember off the names here. Yeah, sure. There's a chap around the property on Cabbage Tree Lane. It was, it was a top bloke, but he passed away when he rolled his tractor and up. For the love of me, I can't remember his name. He was a great bloke. Yeah, he was a very.
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You say he was an awkward customer, but he got to know me and he was good. He was one of those who'd come and ask for me. You say he was an awkward customer, but he got to know me and he was good. He was one of those who'd come and ask for me.
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He was good. Yeah, I don't look. Most of them are probably older customers have all passed away. And yes, you haven't seen them for a long while. Yes, sure. He was good. Yeah, I don't look. Most of them are probably older customers have all passed away. And yes, you haven't seen them for a long while. Yes, sure.
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So yeah, I don't. So yeah, I don't.
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It seemed that many people over a period of what I've worked about 50 odd years, Well, they're 50 years at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen a lot of people. Does anything stand out from your time there? You know, just. It seemed that many people over a period of what I've worked about 50 odd years, Well, they're 50 years at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen a lot of people. Does anything stand out from your time there? You know, just.
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Any we used to have a real funny customer used to come in. He wasn't the fool creep. And he's standing at the fish tank every day. I call that will somebody give this fish a drink of water? And he was just not with it. He used to sell it every time somebody came by. Would you give these fishes? So he's one of the characters that used coming off the street. So we had fish. I can't remember. Yeah, fish. It was at the end. Any we used to have a real funny customer used to come in. He wasn't the fool creep. And he's standing at the fish tank every day. I call that will somebody give this fish a drink of water? And he was just not with it. He used to sell it every time somebody came by. Would you give these fishes? So he's one of the characters that used coming off the street. So we had fish. I can't remember. Yeah, fish. It was at the end.
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Department so it ran into the hardware that way if you went the other way around the corner because where all the records and then you have Ross down and he was in the. Department so it ran into the hardware that way if you went the other way around the corner because where all the records and then you have Ross down and he was in the.
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Where were the drapes and curtains? They're soft furnishings and then come back around to kitchenware and and Derek Hudson. I used to like we used to do 10, but that's another thing we did. We had a 10 bowl camping, bowling clean. OK, OK, which involved Keith Olson. Where were the drapes and curtains? They're soft furnishings and then come back around to kitchenware and and Derek Hudson. I used to like we used to do 10, but that's another thing we did. We had a 10 bowl camping, bowling clean. OK, OK, which involved Keith Olson.
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Aiden Perkins or **** Perkins? OK. Yeah. Few others. Yeah. Yeah. Good. That was a whirl. Yeah. And how good were you? Aiden Perkins or **** Perkins? OK. Yeah. Few others. Yeah. Yeah. Good. That was a whirl. Yeah. And how good were you?
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I've got, I've got we've got trophies. Yeah, OK Medallion. But yeah, we did. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nate Smithley. And how often did you go bowling? Every week when the league was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other than that, we didn't have. I've got, I've got we've got trophies. Yeah, OK Medallion. But yeah, we did. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nate Smithley. And how often did you go bowling? Every week when the league was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other than that, we didn't have.
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People in different departments used to put things in the tube and stand up to the girls that, yeah, messages and bits and pieces. But yeah, no, it's it was good fun. If you're not happy going to work, you wouldn't keep going. Yes, yes. And that was what it was all about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. People in different departments used to put things in the tube and stand up to the girls that, yeah, messages and bits and pieces. But yeah, no, it's it was good fun. If you're not happy going to work, you wouldn't keep going. Yes, yes. And that was what it was all about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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You're you're pointing in the back end, though. I didn't have a car. That's the bus in right, right. Where is your living room at? What was the, I'm gonna say culture of the place? You know, what was the what was the organization like to work for? Was the general like a big family? You're you're pointing in the back end, though. I didn't have a car. That's the bus in right, right. Where is your living room at? What was the, I'm gonna say culture of the place? You know, what was the what was the organization like to work for? Was the general like a big family?
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Yeah, Keith Jenner upstairs keeping the thing and keep going on the floor. Yeah, Keith Jenner upstairs keeping the thing and keep going on the floor.
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All the officers were upstairs anyway. How it worked quite a bit on the floor. So he wasn't, he was, he was a boss, but he worked with the staff, yes. So which was pretty good, yes, yes. All the officers were upstairs anyway. How it worked quite a bit on the floor. So he wasn't, he was, he was a boss, but he worked with the staff, yes. So which was pretty good, yes, yes.
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They get to see what you're doing. Yeah. How you going? Yeah. So yeah, I got on pretty well with everybody, and everybody seemed to get on well with everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They get to see what you're doing. Yeah. How you going? Yeah. So yeah, I got on pretty well with everybody, and everybody seemed to get on well with everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lunch room upstairs, Yes. Which the woman that ran that was a fantastic. So yeah, no, it was good. You'd all get up there and talk and yeah, I remember most of the the shop where everything was. Yeah. You work at look you're working. So you lost socializing that much with everybody else while you're in your your department. Sure. So every time it came to lunchtime or whatever. Lunch room upstairs, Yes. Which the woman that ran that was a fantastic. So yeah, no, it was good. You'd all get up there and talk and yeah, I remember most of the the shop where everything was. Yeah. You work at look you're working. So you lost socializing that much with everybody else while you're in your your department. Sure. So every time it came to lunchtime or whatever.
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That's when you're and that just terrible lifted. It took forever to get up there and broke down a lot. Yeah, that was up to the lunch room. So you miss a bit of your lunch. That's when you're and that just terrible lifted. It took forever to get up there and broke down a lot. Yeah, that was up to the lunch room. So you miss a bit of your lunch.
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So and so you saw a fair bit of Howard then? Yes, he was virtually my boss, even though Gordon were my boss on the floor. He was Bertie. Well, he was the floor manager for that area. That's my belief anyway, because he was never upstairs very often. Yeah, he stayed there. And David, he was up there all off during. Yes. Something else. Yes, Yes, yes. So and so you saw a fair bit of Howard then? Yes, he was virtually my boss, even though Gordon were my boss on the floor. He was Bertie. Well, he was the floor manager for that area. That's my belief anyway, because he was never upstairs very often. Yeah, he stayed there. And David, he was up there all off during. Yes. Something else. Yes, Yes, yes.
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When he was doing the building American, I went up there a few times with the money for the builders. Oh, OK, that was back when I had a car then driving. And what about? When he was doing the building American, I went up there a few times with the money for the builders. Oh, OK, that was back when I had a car then driving. And what about?
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I don't know other social events. Do you remember any Christmas dues or anything special like that? My first one they said bring a plate, so I bought a plate. I don't know other social events. Do you remember any Christmas dues or anything special like that? My first one they said bring a plate, so I bought a plate.
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That was down at the fire station in Denison St. in that area and. That was down at the fire station in Denison St. in that area and.
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Obviously I was only 15, young when I first started. So. Yeah. Bought a plate. We didn't know anything different coming from England. Yeah. How would you know? No alcohol whatsoever. All soft drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's no alcohol. Always remember. Not that I would have been drinking. Yeah, it was. Yeah. That's sort of a bit. But yeah, it was a good night. Yeah. I, I, yeah, a bit embarrassed. Obviously I was only 15, young when I first started. So. Yeah. Bought a plate. We didn't know anything different coming from England. Yeah. How would you know? No alcohol whatsoever. All soft drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's no alcohol. Always remember. Not that I would have been drinking. Yeah, it was. Yeah. That's sort of a bit. But yeah, it was a good night. Yeah. I, I, yeah, a bit embarrassed.
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But you haven't. You don't know about it now. But you haven't. You don't know about it now.
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Yes, well, that's right. I mean, well, you, you took it literally. Bring a place. Why wouldn't you? I bought. Where's the food? Yes, well, that's right. I mean, well, you, you took it literally. Bring a place. Why wouldn't you? I bought. Where's the food?
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Yeah, very good. And was there music or what did they do? They had a bit of music playing, but there was no disc shopping back then. It was just sort of a player add to everything. Yeah. Bit of soft music so you could talk. Not in their days. It's last year. You got to share. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was very. Yeah, very good. And was there music or what did they do? They had a bit of music playing, but there was no disc shopping back then. It was just sort of a player add to everything. Yeah. Bit of soft music so you could talk. Not in their days. It's last year. You got to share. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was very.
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Locate type. Yeah. Yeah. That sort of Yeah. Over the years, things changed. Yes. Yeah. But there's none of that. It was just sitting on a chair. And I don't know if there was any dancing or anything. You just socialize. It was it was a bit like a reunion. Yeah. Christmas time. Were there any other sort of. Locate type. Yeah. Yeah. That sort of Yeah. Over the years, things changed. Yes. Yeah. But there's none of that. It was just sitting on a chair. And I don't know if there was any dancing or anything. You just socialize. It was it was a bit like a reunion. Yeah. Christmas time. Were there any other sort of.
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Events, as I say, Bob Duncan I think organised the rally thing. We had that thing and they were a bit wild in those days driving and he had a little Mini. Events, as I say, Bob Duncan I think organised the rally thing. We had that thing and they were a bit wild in those days driving and he had a little Mini.
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I was, I was behind him. I was, I was behind him.
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Anyway, they changed drivers while they were still going. Really. Him and his wife. Anyway, they changed drivers while they were still going. Really. Him and his wife.
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'Cause I'm in the east driving. When I look back, his wife was driving. 'Cause I'm in the east driving. When I look back, his wife was driving.
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I wonder how they did that. I wonder how they did that.
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In a mini, that's good effort. Yeah, that's a very good effort. So when you were looking. In a mini, that's good effort. Yeah, that's a very good effort. So when you were looking.
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For work, how did you end up at Waters? Was it the first place you went or No, I'd been to two or three. There was not curvies down the road. I sort of worked me well transferred, so it's not curvy. So it was Waltons and coal and coals down there, bottom end, just working your way up. And that was the one I got the diagram from. When I went to Waters, you had all those stores on each corner, on one corner, not curvies in the middle. For work, how did you end up at Waters? Was it the first place you went or No, I'd been to two or three. There was not curvies down the road. I sort of worked me well transferred, so it's not curvy. So it was Waltons and coal and coals down there, bottom end, just working your way up. And that was the one I got the diagram from. When I went to Waters, you had all those stores on each corner, on one corner, not curvies in the middle.
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Colours at the gate where the gateway is now. Yes. And Waters is the big store up there. And so yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's where I finished up. But yeah, it was, it was great. Yeah. Get a telegram. I just said to Barry, I would have, I would have liked to have kept the telegram. It would have been good, yes. Colours at the gate where the gateway is now. Yes. And Waters is the big store up there. And so yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's where I finished up. But yeah, it was, it was great. Yeah. Get a telegram. I just said to Barry, I would have, I would have liked to have kept the telegram. It would have been good, yes.
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A good, very good. Yeah, it's gone, by the way. Yes, by the wayside somewhere. Yeah, that's a shame. But anyway, you got the job. That's the main thing. You did have a sports reform. Not a big one, because that's where I bought my first fishing rod. A good, very good. Yeah, it's gone, by the way. Yes, by the wayside somewhere. Yeah, that's a shame. But anyway, you got the job. That's the main thing. You did have a sports reform. Not a big one, because that's where I bought my first fishing rod.
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So he was, he was one of the tempting balls. Ebola, he's very good at it. So but yeah, pretty well. Remember most people in the paint department being downstairs, Iggy stroke a little bit earlier for the painters. So he was, he was one of the tempting balls. Ebola, he's very good at it. So but yeah, pretty well. Remember most people in the paint department being downstairs, Iggy stroke a little bit earlier for the painters.
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So you're here. So you, you had everything the store need to have a bit of everything. It did. It did. It was a bit, yeah. And talking to Yolanda yesterday, she said, oh, the blokes got up to more trouble than we did. So it was a did playing with the tubes and sending stuff to the girls. And I think somebody put a dead mess in there, one of them at one stage. So you're here. So you, you had everything the store need to have a bit of everything. It did. It did. It was a bit, yeah. And talking to Yolanda yesterday, she said, oh, the blokes got up to more trouble than we did. So it was a did playing with the tubes and sending stuff to the girls. And I think somebody put a dead mess in there, one of them at one stage.
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Yeah, Quarter caused a bit of a thing upstairs and that we actually went used to go straight across the road at the pub. Yeah, Quarter caused a bit of a thing upstairs and that we actually went used to go straight across the road at the pub.
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When I was at the age, so if you go into permanent at the corner of it, but we finished up, I did a retail management course with a few others from work, the TAFE. So the first thing was to go to the pub and have a bike week and then go down to the to the taste, which was down OK, which is down past the railway station. When I was at the age, so if you go into permanent at the corner of it, but we finished up, I did a retail management course with a few others from work, the TAFE. So the first thing was to go to the pub and have a bike week and then go down to the to the taste, which was down OK, which is down past the railway station.
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So I think it's still there on the board. Yes, yes, it is. And I mean, how did that come about? Was that encouraged? Was it did they point point you to that and say was it just an expectation? How did I, I think it was a thing sent around it said this course is happening whoever wants to to do it. So I think it's still there on the board. Yes, yes, it is. And I mean, how did that come about? Was that encouraged? Was it did they point point you to that and say was it just an expectation? How did I, I think it was a thing sent around it said this course is happening whoever wants to to do it.
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Right, just sign up, go and see the Keith Denham or whoever it was, right? Or give it to Keith Green when he comes around. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a few of us did that. Yeah. OK. Five of us from the Waters family, cause part of this is, is the history of the family as well. So what do you remember about working? I mean, what was it like to work for Waters? David Howard, what was it like? Right, just sign up, go and see the Keith Denham or whoever it was, right? Or give it to Keith Green when he comes around. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a few of us did that. Yeah. OK. Five of us from the Waters family, cause part of this is, is the history of the family as well. So what do you remember about working? I mean, what was it like to work for Waters? David Howard, what was it like?
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David and Howard. David and Howard.
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In fact, I got a couple of wage risers indeed, that were handed to me because of the work I was doing. So they come in, don't tell anybody else, but I think I started all about not a lot of money. I know one of my wages was $17.50 a week. So I used to buy a record, cost me a dollar every week, a single. And yeah, do all that sort of thing. You didn't have a lot of money, but you had enough. And then once you got your license. In fact, I got a couple of wage risers indeed, that were handed to me because of the work I was doing. So they come in, don't tell anybody else, but I think I started all about not a lot of money. I know one of my wages was $17.50 a week. So I used to buy a record, cost me a dollar every week, a single. And yeah, do all that sort of thing. You didn't have a lot of money, but you had enough. And then once you got your license.
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You sort of need money for Vegas and petrol and when we bought our first house. You sort of need money for Vegas and petrol and when we bought our first house.
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My wage at Waters back then was about $166 a week. Wow. And you repayment for 254. Wow for a fortnight. So two weeks wages, yeah. My wage at Waters back then was about $166 a week. Wow. And you repayment for 254. Wow for a fortnight. So two weeks wages, yeah.
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Nice. Wow. Times have changed, haven't they? Oh, yes, there's a lot more money here. Yes, indeed. All right. Well, look, that that might be just about everything. I think that's terrific. Good human insights, So thank you. Nice. Wow. Times have changed, haven't they? Oh, yes, there's a lot more money here. Yes, indeed. All right. Well, look, that that might be just about everything. I think that's terrific. Good human insights, So thank you.