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Take 2 with , ah, Bobby McFarland, at  7 Wall Street, back to the ah, 1950 Take 2 with , ah, Bobby McFarland, at  7 Wall Street, back to the ah, 1950
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'50s flood, um, did you ever '50s flood, um, did you ever
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see some army ducks? [Bob]Yeah well more so in, ah,  '56, they used to come across see some army ducks? [Bob]Yeah well more so in, ah,  '56, they used to come across
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across and bloomin', and, it'd come from town. That particular time we stayed up at across and bloomin', and, it'd come from town. That particular time we stayed up at
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the show ground, in, er, in the big Hammond Hall n that, they had us the show ground, in, er, in the big Hammond Hall n that, they had us
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they er, had all the people pretty well from North Wagga was up there, we used to come down  they er, had all the people pretty well from North Wagga was up there, we used to come down 
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they'd bring us across in they'd bring us across in
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a ducks, and other times they'd, they'd bring you over in, um, the Rescue Club used to bring you over in a  a ducks, and other times they'd, they'd bring you over in, um, the Rescue Club used to bring you over in a 
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er, in boats, but the big Army ducks used to go in at the bottom of the the old bridge er, in boats, but the big Army ducks used to go in at the bottom of the the old bridge
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and come across to, ah, just in front of where I live now, they used to have a big and come across to, ah, just in front of where I live now, they used to have a big
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a big somebody's, paling fence that'd, they'd picks from somewhere, you would get out of that and  a big somebody's, paling fence that'd, they'd picks from somewhere, you would get out of that and 
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wouldn't get mud and that, and that up, gettin' up the bank in the front, but the thing wouldn't get mud and that, and that up, gettin' up the bank in the front, but the thing
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it intrigued me with them, when they went in the water at the bridge, they'd let the tyres  it intrigued me with them, when they went in the water at the bridge, they'd let the tyres 
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go down, in the, so they wouldn't have the, the boat, they wouldn't rock so much with the tyres go down, in the, so they wouldn't have the, the boat, they wouldn't rock so much with the tyres
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with the air in 'em, and when they'd come out, they usually just pump, pump back up with the air in 'em, and when they'd come out, they usually just pump, pump back up
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as you was coming up the, up the bank, they'd turn 'em on again and the tyres'd as you was coming up the, up the bank, they'd turn 'em on again and the tyres'd
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a pump up so they wouldn't sway as much in the water, they did, they end up a pump up so they wouldn't sway as much in the water, they did, they end up
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stopping 'em, the Army ducks, that coming over here, because when they was driving stopping 'em, the Army ducks, that coming over here, because when they was driving
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around, they, it the waves of them used to break the, waves'd hit windows in the houses around, they, it the waves of them used to break the, waves'd hit windows in the houses
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houses when they was up houses when they was up
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up high, and used to break the, the winder, so they either slowed 'em down or they up high, and used to break the, the winder, so they either slowed 'em down or they
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they, they stopped 'em comin' over 'ere, but, that was the last time I'd ever seen Army ducks over 'ere they, they stopped 'em comin' over 'ere, but, that was the last time I'd ever seen Army ducks over 'ere
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[Bob] In '56 [Sherry] [laughs]Would've been fun for a kid [laughs] [Bob]Oh, it was,  it used to be  [Bob] In '56 [Sherry] [laughs]Would've been fun for a kid [laughs] [Bob]Oh, it was,  it used to be 
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a treat gettin' a ride out 'em n that [Sherry] Mm [Bob] But ah, over 'ere  a treat gettin' a ride out 'em n that [Sherry] Mm [Bob] But ah, over 'ere 
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a few times that the water, that since the  a few times that the water, that since the 
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levee bank that the water hasn't got in, n, and in 2010, the son and I stayed levee bank that the water hasn't got in, n, and in 2010, the son and I stayed
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stayed down at the son's place and it didn't get in, there was only about oh, 14 or 15  stayed down at the son's place and it didn't get in, there was only about oh, 14 or 15 
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15 people over 'ere, we just walked around the levee banks an that, you know   15 people over 'ere, we just walked around the levee banks an that, you know  
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daytime n that, just checkin' n lookin' n that, but they wouldn't let any anyone come daytime n that, just checkin' n lookin' n that, but they wouldn't let any anyone come
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come over, they knew, they knew, the police was over 'ere, there was one local, ah, e was born  come over, they knew, they knew, the police was over 'ere, there was one local, ah, e was born 
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born and bred 'ere too, come from Ganmain, he was over in the last flood too, or the   born and bred 'ere too, come from Ganmain, he was over in the last flood too, or the  
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the rescue mob, and he knew everyone,was over 'ere, he used to give us word what was going on n that  the rescue mob, and he knew everyone,was over 'ere, he used to give us word what was going on n that 
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n that when, but ah the water never got in that time, like it, in 2000 n that when, but ah the water never got in that time, like it, in 2000
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thousand and ten , it just [Sherry] Mm [Bob] the levee bank held it out an, which was good in one way, but the eh thousand and ten , it just [Sherry] Mm [Bob] the levee bank held it out an, which was good in one way, but the eh
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it was, a far as the last time, knowin' the 2012, there was that many, they it was, a far as the last time, knowin' the 2012, there was that many, they
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a lot of us stayed over 'ere, there was quite a few people stayed, some was on the , where the   a lot of us stayed over 'ere, there was quite a few people stayed, some was on the , where the  
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helicopter pad is at the footy ground, some of them stayed up there helicopter pad is at the footy ground, some of them stayed up there
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a little tents, there was a little tents, there was
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a few people up there, but the mount of animals n that , that the ones that stayed 'ere, that  a few people up there, but the mount of animals n that , that the ones that stayed 'ere, that 
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two or three had boats that went around and saved that many animals, that, you, just one of those  two or three had boats that went around and saved that many animals, that, you, just one of those 
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those things. My son kicked me out, [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] On the day before that because I had me those things. My son kicked me out, [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] On the day before that because I had me
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ferrets n, and his dog, and, eh, was down at me Mum's place, and he, ah  ferrets n, and his dog, and, eh, was down at me Mum's place, and he, ah 
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Police said, you know, that, it's definitely goin' to come in and break n that, it'll break the Police said, you know, that, it's definitely goin' to come in and break n that, it'll break the
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bank n that, the policeman told us, the little bloke n, and, um , Brett Hallam bank n that, the policeman told us, the little bloke n, and, um , Brett Hallam
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and, ah. Oh, me son said, well, Dad, go, the keys are in the trayback , go, and he hunted me so I went to and, ah. Oh, me son said, well, Dad, go, the keys are in the trayback , go, and he hunted me so I went to
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Bourkelands, [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] to me daughter's place with 'em, [Sherry] Right [Bob] but ah yeah, they'll never Bourkelands, [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] to me daughter's place with 'em, [Sherry] Right [Bob] but ah yeah, they'll never
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never get me out of North Wagga [Sherry] [laughs] I can see that [Bob] Nuh. [Sherry] yeah. never get me out of North Wagga [Sherry] [laughs] I can see that [Bob] Nuh. [Sherry] yeah.
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So when the levee banks went in, in the early 1960s you knew it would affect the way it flooded So when the levee banks went in, in the early 1960s you knew it would affect the way it flooded
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[Bob]Yeah, the way it changed water around [Sherry] Mm [Bob]  n that but. yep [Sherry] how did it work [Bob]Yeah, the way it changed water around [Sherry] Mm [Bob]  n that but. yep [Sherry] how did it work
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well '70, '74 like, as far as the levee bank this time well '70, '74 like, as far as the levee bank this time
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time, we ,we got 6 inches less, but cause it went over the top of the levee bank, so it levels time, we ,we got 6 inches less, but cause it went over the top of the levee bank, so it levels
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all out it was six inches less, in most houses around, all around North Wagga all out it was six inches less, in most houses around, all around North Wagga
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bloomin', ah,  there's a coupla people said they had more in this flood than they had in bloomin', ah,  there's a coupla people said they had more in this flood than they had in
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'74 '74
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but, water, water levels, is all , I can't see it, to be honest I think they're talking through  but, water, water levels, is all , I can't see it, to be honest I think they're talking through 
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through their hat instead of [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] some, some of those blokes said that wasn't even here  through their hat instead of [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] some, some of those blokes said that wasn't even here 
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here in '74 so here in '74 so
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so [Sherry] Oh ok  [Bob] so, bloomin', ah [Norma] the levee banks weren't here in 74 [Bob]no, no, but I mean  so [Sherry] Oh ok  [Bob] so, bloomin', ah [Norma] the levee banks weren't here in 74 [Bob]no, no, but I mean 
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no as far as the no as far as the
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the heights, heights, you know [Norma] Oh. Oh. [Sherry] Yes before the 74 flood the,  you had the levee banks that the heights, heights, you know [Norma] Oh. Oh. [Sherry] Yes before the 74 flood the,  you had the levee banks that
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put in [Bob] Yep [Norma] Yeah [Sherry] it up for Wagga [Bob and Norma] Yeah   [Sherry] How did that affect the flow of water here put in [Bob] Yep [Norma] Yeah [Sherry] it up for Wagga [Bob and Norma] Yeah   [Sherry] How did that affect the flow of water here
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in 74 before you got your levee bank ? [Bob] Well [Sherry] Did it make a [Bob] once it got to a certain yeah in 74 before you got your levee bank ? [Bob] Well [Sherry] Did it make a [Bob] once it got to a certain yeah
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[Bob] the same [Norma speaks in background, indistinctly] it never really pressurised [Sherry] Mm[Bob] over the height but  [Bob] the same [Norma speaks in background, indistinctly] it never really pressurised [Sherry] Mm[Bob] over the height but 
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Mm. There is a, is a Mm. There is a, is a
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a mark up there at the school, and the front of the school, of the height of the mark of the  a mark up there at the school, and the front of the school, of the height of the mark of the 
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in the brick of all the floods, I think the '50, '56, '74 in the brick of all the floods, I think the '50, '56, '74
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then they got the marks in the brick, how high the water was there [Sherry] and the 2012 then they got the marks in the brick, how high the water was there [Sherry] and the 2012
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flood would have been, just below the ah, '74, yes just below the '74 flood would have been, just below the ah, '74, yes just below the '74
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[Bob] Yeah [Sherry] Yeah [ 6 inches] [Sherry] What about the '56 flood then how's that compare ?  [Bob] it was, it wasn't as big as [Bob] Yeah [Sherry] Yeah [ 6 inches] [Sherry] What about the '56 flood then how's that compare ?  [Bob] it was, it wasn't as big as
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the 74. [Sherry] Right, Mm. [Bob]it was, and it wasn't quite as big as this one [Sherry] and the  the 74. [Sherry] Right, Mm. [Bob]it was, and it wasn't quite as big as this one [Sherry] and the 
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[Sherry] water [Bob] '50 was lower, '50 was, and then '56 was higher than the '50, and then the  [Sherry] water [Bob] '50 was lower, '50 was, and then '56 was higher than the '50, and then the 
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'74 was higher and this one was a '74 was higher and this one was a
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a little bit lower, [Sherry] Mm [Bob] as far as North Wagga [Sherry] some people have said that the water rushed to a little bit lower, [Sherry] Mm [Bob] as far as North Wagga [Sherry] some people have said that the water rushed to
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round a lot round a lot
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a lot more in the 2012 than the 7, '74, is that correct , a bit more ferocious? [Bob] Well a lot more in the 2012 than the 7, '74, is that correct , a bit more ferocious? [Bob] Well
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[Bob]The son said [Norma speaks indistinctly in background]  [Bob] and the son said it did chop around a bit when it got over the banks, he said it just [Bob]The son said [Norma speaks indistinctly in background]  [Bob] and the son said it did chop around a bit when it got over the banks, he said it just
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just want to come in at 20 you know on the Tuesday morning. He said About just want to come in at 20 you know on the Tuesday morning. He said About
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20 to 4 in the morning, he said it want to come over the banks and that. He said it just 20 to 4 in the morning, he said it want to come over the banks and that. He said it just
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come in like the sea, a roar like the sea (murmur). He said ?inaudible"? it just come in like the sea, a roar like the sea (murmur). He said ?inaudible"? it just
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it was still dark then but he was up on the roof of the house he at me mother's place, he had he it was still dark then but he was up on the roof of the house he at me mother's place, he had he
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had 'is, made 'is bed and thing up there and he stayed up there and a ladder to get down near the had 'is, made 'is bed and thing up there and he stayed up there and a ladder to get down near the
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chimley and he used to walk up home and that and he said but the water it was, you know chimley and he used to walk up home and that and he said but the water it was, you know
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twirling around fairly well but he didn't know what it was like in 74 but I didn't know neither twirling around fairly well but he didn't know what it was like in 74 but I didn't know neither
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really what it was like inside here because I wasn't [Sherry] Did you stay here in '74? [Bob] No I stayed over at really what it was like inside here because I wasn't [Sherry] Did you stay here in '74? [Bob] No I stayed over at
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over at Rhoda Ave over at Rhoda Ave
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Avenue , I didn't know any, [Sherry] Right [Bob] there wasn't many people over here in '74 [Sherry] '74 Avenue , I didn't know any, [Sherry] Right [Bob] there wasn't many people over here in '74 [Sherry] '74
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So you had friends to stay with in '74? [Norma] Mum and Dad. [Bob] Yeah they lived in Rhoda Avenue. [Sherry] Right So you had friends to stay with in '74? [Norma] Mum and Dad. [Bob] Yeah they lived in Rhoda Avenue. [Sherry] Right
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particular time we stayed there and.  The girls, one went ta particular time we stayed there and.  The girls, one went ta
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yeah Nancy [Norma] They both went didn't they? [Bob] I don't know where Julie er Debbie went. Yeah I think there was both. yeah Nancy [Norma] They both went didn't they? [Bob] I don't know where Julie er Debbie went. Yeah I think there was both.
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[Norma] rushed in grabbed their, draws outta their dressing tables and took them. [laughs] [Sherry] [laughs] this was in [Norma] rushed in grabbed their, draws outta their dressing tables and took them. [laughs] [Sherry] [laughs] this was in
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2012 you're talking about. 2012 you're talking about.
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[Sherry] about [Norma] No in '74.  [Sherry] Oh in '74.  [Norma] Yeah. Yeah. [Sherry] So in 74 where would you have got your information [Sherry] about [Norma] No in '74.  [Sherry] Oh in '74.  [Norma] Yeah. Yeah. [Sherry] So in 74 where would you have got your information
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[Sherry] from. Um, about what was happening.  Did you listen to the radio or?  [Bob] Through Dick Gorman and [Sherry] from. Um, about what was happening.  Did you listen to the radio or?  [Bob] Through Dick Gorman and
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[Bob] and them, they really [Norma] The Rescue Club. [Bob] Yeah the Rescue Club there was a [Bob] and them, they really [Norma] The Rescue Club. [Bob] Yeah the Rescue Club there was a
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bloke.  Matter of fact me mother and brother-in-law stayed at his place.  He was a head, one of the well up bloke.  Matter of fact me mother and brother-in-law stayed at his place.  He was a head, one of the well up
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up in the police force he was up in the police force he was
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head of the Rescue Club, [Norma] Neville Tamlin [Bob] Neville Tamlin and they stayed out at Ashmont  head of the Rescue Club, [Norma] Neville Tamlin [Bob] Neville Tamlin and they stayed out at Ashmont 
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at his place matter of fact.  But he got, they got word that it was gonna be pretty bad.  There was a at his place matter of fact.  But he got, they got word that it was gonna be pretty bad.  There was a
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a bloke up the river called Molly Monaham and he rung 'im up n told 'em to get the a bloke up the river called Molly Monaham and he rung 'im up n told 'em to get the
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people out of North Wagga. All the years he lived there the water.  He never heard the people out of North Wagga. All the years he lived there the water.  He never heard the
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water roarin', goin' the way it was comin' down.  He he said to get the people out of North water roarin', goin' the way it was comin' down.  He he said to get the people out of North
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Wagga.  And they went around, some of the people was, and went around with a loud  Wagga.  And they went around, some of the people was, and went around with a loud 
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speaker and told us ta, to get out.  And I got  [Sherry] Did you have much time to speaker and told us ta, to get out.  And I got  [Sherry] Did you have much time to
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[Bob] Oh, everyone had a few [Bob] Oh, everyone had a few
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a few had packed up before that you know it pretty well , they was just some of them are a few had packed up before that you know it pretty well , they was just some of them are
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still hangin' on, still n that, doing that but I got out the next next day at about 9 o'  still hangin' on, still n that, doing that but I got out the next next day at about 9 o' 
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o'clock and I walked from the front of our place to the little garage and the o'clock and I walked from the front of our place to the little garage and the
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Rescue ah, the Rescue had their, ah, Rescue ah, the Rescue had their, ah,
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ah little truck up there and I walked up with ah, to catch the, the boat was up there ah little truck up there and I walked up with ah, to catch the, the boat was up there
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Had a Had a
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a red curly retriever dog swum with me, a whippet under me arms, a ferret box on me shoulder a red curly retriever dog swum with me, a whippet under me arms, a ferret box on me shoulder
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and some little little quail I had in the bird cage I carried 'em up and we left and some little little quail I had in the bird cage I carried 'em up and we left
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left there we went up Marrar went up um the street down down the street down  left there we went up Marrar went up um the street down down the street down 
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Gardiner Street Gardiner Street
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Street and around and we went up to the police st- up to the ah Palm and Pawn and left 2 policemen out Street and around and we went up to the police st- up to the ah Palm and Pawn and left 2 policemen out
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out, we drove in in the driveway of the ah Palm and Pawn where you go towards the motel out, we drove in in the driveway of the ah Palm and Pawn where you go towards the motel
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let the policeman out, went down the back, do- out through the back gate and down let the policeman out, went down the back, do- out through the back gate and down
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down William Street, went went down to me cousins place Billy Glover tried to get 'im down William Street, went went down to me cousins place Billy Glover tried to get 'im
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'im out, he wouldn't get out of the roof, he wouldn't even talk to me so we went 'im out, he wouldn't get out of the roof, he wouldn't even talk to me so we went
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then we went over come up and went through near the Black Swan and went through the then we went over come up and went through near the Black Swan and went through the
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lip where the bank was, a bit of lip where the bank was, a bit of
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a bank there and went up to the old wooden bridge where the old Hampden Bridge was a bank there and went up to the old wooden bridge where the old Hampden Bridge was
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bloomin' that day but the water was, it was in just in my house when I left that time in 7- bloomin' that day but the water was, it was in just in my house when I left that time in 7-
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'74.  'Cos, ah, I could feel the floors. I opened the door to let the water in because I could feel the '74.  'Cos, ah, I could feel the floors. I opened the door to let the water in because I could feel the
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floor was moving, you know, like so to be moving floor was moving, you know, like so to be moving
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a bit, and then , to let the water in and then, then we went, went over to there and stayed   a bit, and then , to let the water in and then, then we went, went over to there and stayed  
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me mother-in-laws house then till I could get me mother-in-laws house then till I could get
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get back but there was no ah no Army no Army Ducks in '74 [Sherry] No [Bob] but there get back but there was no ah no Army no Army Ducks in '74 [Sherry] No [Bob] but there
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[Sherry] How was your recovery in '74 with cleaning up?  Did you get much help in '74?  [Bob] There was [Sherry] How was your recovery in '74 with cleaning up?  Did you get much help in '74?  [Bob] There was
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was was
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a lot of people from business people and things that was that come over and helped they'd they'd a lot of people from business people and things that was that come over and helped they'd they'd
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was coming over and helping clean houses out especially eldery people n that there were anyone that wanted was coming over and helping clean houses out especially eldery people n that there were anyone that wanted
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a hand they.  Well its nearly I spent nearly a week, I worked at  abbatoirs but I never went a hand they.  Well its nearly I spent nearly a week, I worked at  abbatoirs but I never went
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No, it wasn't, eh,  we used to bloomin' ah, we'd be over helping people out for about No, it wasn't, eh,  we used to bloomin' ah, we'd be over helping people out for about
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about a about a
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a week cleanin' up houses, you know out in the thing but see we a lot of people we had a week cleanin' up houses, you know out in the thing but see we a lot of people we had
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we had our stuff up, lifted our the furniture up in houses, where,  bloomin' before we had our stuff up, lifted our the furniture up in houses, where,  bloomin' before
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that they used to always just lift 'em up but in '74 me mother lost a lot that they used to always just lift 'em up but in '74 me mother lost a lot
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a lot of stuff because had the our home and they just with blanks on it and put a lot of stuff because had the our home and they just with blanks on it and put
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their furn- ah, put their furniture and all up like that but it come higher than it did before as their furn- ah, put their furniture and all up like that but it come higher than it did before as
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she lost she lost
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a lot of.  Like things you can't replace photos and all them sort of thing in '74 but, but I a lot of.  Like things you can't replace photos and all them sort of thing in '74 but, but I
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but in '74 it wasn't as bad as far as um, furniture but in '74 it wasn't as bad as far as um, furniture
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but everyone stacked up, but this time it looked like there was a but everyone stacked up, but this time it looked like there was a
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a cyclone went through it the amount of a cyclone went through it the amount of
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furniture and everything was out, out around the footpath and that when people, ya know, went through it furniture and everything was out, out around the footpath and that when people, ya know, went through it
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threw out stuff and that, it was just just unreal ya, had any insurance this time threw out stuff and that, it was just just unreal ya, had any insurance this time
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one there was but in in '74 you couldn't get insurance over here before they put the lev-  one there was but in in '74 you couldn't get insurance over here before they put the lev- 
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the levee banks up, ah, made a difference too people had to clean a lot the levee banks up, ah, made a difference too people had to clean a lot
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a lot of their stuff up that that got, you know, that you just didn't throw them out but if you 'ad insurance a lot of their stuff up that that got, you know, that you just didn't throw them out but if you 'ad insurance
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and they was [Sherry] Mm [Bob] but this this time. [Sherry] Most people would have been insured this time.  [Bob] theys and they was [Sherry] Mm [Bob] but this this time. [Sherry] Most people would have been insured this time.  [Bob] theys
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well they a lot of them worked out they reckon it was it would be flat out being half [Sherry] Mm [Bob] the people well they a lot of them worked out they reckon it was it would be flat out being half [Sherry] Mm [Bob] the people
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was in short [Sherry] Mm [Bob] enough for your [Sherry] the, the information you got this time was it was in short [Sherry] Mm [Bob] enough for your [Sherry] the, the information you got this time was it
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a lot more?  What did you use radio?  [Bob] Yeah, a lot comin' over the radio but  [Sherry] Did you a lot more?  What did you use radio?  [Bob] Yeah, a lot comin' over the radio but  [Sherry] Did you
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 [Sherry] Did you, didn't use the internet at all, er, um ?  [Norma] Over the phone.  [Bob] Yeah. They just [Sherry] Over the phone?  [Sherry] Did you, didn't use the internet at all, er, um ?  [Norma] Over the phone.  [Bob] Yeah. They just [Sherry] Over the phone?
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[Norma]Yeah [Sherry] from um, who told you? [Norma] Tels-Telstra , putting flood warnings over the phone  [Sherry] Over the phone.  [Norma] Yes. [Norma]Yeah [Sherry] from um, who told you? [Norma] Tels-Telstra , putting flood warnings over the phone  [Sherry] Over the phone.  [Norma] Yes.
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[Norma] That was a bit - [Sherry] Mobile?  [Norma] No, home phone [Sherry] Oh ok  [Norma] Mm was a bit [Norma] That was a bit - [Sherry] Mobile?  [Norma] No, home phone [Sherry] Oh ok  [Norma] Mm was a bit
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[Norma] A bit scary really.  [Sherry] Mm [Norma] Mmm [Sherry] It was, it was sca- [Norma] A bit scary really.  [Sherry] Mm [Norma] Mmm [Sherry] It was, it was sca-
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[Norma] Well, it just said this is this is um, a flood alert, you are to be evacuated [Norma] Well, it just said this is this is um, a flood alert, you are to be evacuated
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 I just can't remember the exact words but, you know, the first time we heard it, it was  I just can't remember the exact words but, you know, the first time we heard it, it was
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scary and you think oh this is worse than what it seems to be the way they put over. Mm. But it was  scary and you think oh this is worse than what it seems to be the way they put over. Mm. But it was 
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But it was good.  Made you alert.  Keep thinkin'. Mm. [laughs] [Sherry] so were you pretty ten -ten- [Bob] hey  But it was good.  Made you alert.  Keep thinkin'. Mm. [laughs] [Sherry] so were you pretty ten -ten- [Bob] hey 
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[Sherry] Tense in that lead up time?  [Bob] They got us out, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] they got us out, pretty well the people got  [Sherry] Tense in that lead up time?  [Bob] They got us out, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] they got us out, pretty well the people got 
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got out pretty quick this time and they, we 'ad a meeting, before the meeting was got out pretty quick this time and they, we 'ad a meeting, before the meeting was
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even finished, people was leavin' the hall, goin' ta, 'cause they said we 'ad 5 hours even finished, people was leavin' the hall, goin' ta, 'cause they said we 'ad 5 hours
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[Sherry] Mm [Bob] Roughly 5 hours to pack [Sherry] [laughs]  that, that would've give us til midnight on Sundey night  [Sherry] Mm [Bob] Roughly 5 hours to pack [Sherry] [laughs]  that, that would've give us til midnight on Sundey night 
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Well, it was the, the road between the bridges was still drivable at on Mon- Well, it was the, the road between the bridges was still drivable at on Mon-
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Monday, Monday afternoon at half past 5, there was still the police car went around there in the Monday, Monday afternoon at half past 5, there was still the police car went around there in the
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the wheels wasn't even the wheels wasn't even
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even wet at half past 5 between the bridges but once you went out on Sunday ni- or Mon- even wet at half past 5 between the bridges but once you went out on Sunday ni- or Mon-
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Monday morning and that you couldn't come b- they wouldn't let you come back over 'ere. [Sherry] So [Bob] So there was no Monday morning and that you couldn't come b- they wouldn't let you come back over 'ere. [Sherry] So [Bob] So there was no
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water between the bridge or anythink, you just, that was it they because in 20- water between the bridge or anythink, you just, that was it they because in 20-
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and 10 that a lot of people said ah oh we , we got out and there was no fl-, it never got and 10 that a lot of people said ah oh we , we got out and there was no fl-, it never got
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got in there [Sherry] Mm [Bob] we're not goin' ever again not gonna to pack up and go again [Sherry] Yep [Bob] that's got in there [Sherry] Mm [Bob] we're not goin' ever again not gonna to pack up and go again [Sherry] Yep [Bob] that's
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that's why they  [Sherry] Yep  [Bob] That's why, they they [Sherry]Why  they weren't ready [Bob] that's, that's, that's why they this time they said, you know that's why they  [Sherry] Yep  [Bob] That's why, they they [Sherry]Why  they weren't ready [Bob] that's, that's, that's why they this time they said, you know
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know you, you gotta get out an that they just went and got their some of them got their valu- know you, you gotta get out an that they just went and got their some of them got their valu-
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valuables.  And pwhisht, they went , they said they only had 5 hours.  Well, they got us because I think there was valuables.  And pwhisht, they went , they said they only had 5 hours.  Well, they got us because I think there was
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there was a kind of a rush job because there was a kind of a rush job because
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a lot of them said before we're not going to get out again , 'cause, you know, get scar- a lot of them said before we're not going to get out again , 'cause, you know, get scar-
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scared like that, but it wasn't a scare this time it was a  scared like that, but it wasn't a scare this time it was a 
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a, but it was fair dinkum an that, you know.  [Sherry] Mm and they realised it was fair dinkum only 5 hours before [Bob] Yeah an they , yeah an they a, but it was fair dinkum an that, you know.  [Sherry] Mm and they realised it was fair dinkum only 5 hours before [Bob] Yeah an they , yeah an they
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yeah [Sherry] Yeah [Bob] bloomin', jus' why they, but there was yeah [Sherry] Yeah [Bob] bloomin', jus' why they, but there was
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a lot of thems, heaps of people said, No, no way known I'm going to get out [Sherry] So they would have t- a lot of thems, heaps of people said, No, no way known I'm going to get out [Sherry] So they would have t-
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taken more in 2010 than they took this time. [Bob] Beg your pardon.  [Sherry] They would have taken more taken more in 2010 than they took this time. [Bob] Beg your pardon.  [Sherry] They would have taken more
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say, did they take furniture and, and, valuables [Bob] no say, did they take furniture and, and, valuables [Bob] no
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[Sherry] ?inaudible? [Bob] a lot of 'em stacked their furniture up, in [Sherry] Oh ok mm [Bob] oh, some of 'em went out in 2000   [Sherry] ?inaudible? [Bob] a lot of 'em stacked their furniture up, in [Sherry] Oh ok mm [Bob] oh, some of 'em went out in 2000  
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2010 they took their, all their furniture n that, but not a   2010 they took their, all their furniture n that, but not a  
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a real lot but [Sherry] Mm [Bob] this time they,  they never had a good real good chance to get a real lot but [Sherry] Mm [Bob] this time they,  they never had a good real good chance to get
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get out.  [Sherry] ?inaudible?  time. Mm.  [Norma] But there was a lot more rain this time than there was in 2010 [Bob] It rained everywhere.  get out.  [Sherry] ?inaudible?  time. Mm.  [Norma] But there was a lot more rain this time than there was in 2010 [Bob] It rained everywhere. 
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[Bob] I honesty didn't think and I said to that, that ah headman over the, was 'e [Norma] James Mc [Bob] I honesty didn't think and I said to that, that ah headman over the, was 'e [Norma] James Mc
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[Bob] McTavick up there at the hall in 2010. I asked him was it gunna, how high [Bob] McTavick up there at the hall in 2010. I asked him was it gunna, how high
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the river gunna come.  He said, well it's at 10 metres at Gundagai.  He said it'll be the river gunna come.  He said, well it's at 10 metres at Gundagai.  He said it'll be
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10 metres 10 metres
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down here.  I said no.  He said, Yeah, it'll come, I said no, because he was only a down here.  I said no.  He said, Yeah, it'll come, I said no, because he was only a
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new on the job, I got a lot of respect for that man, too and I said there's Tarcutta new on the job, I got a lot of respect for that man, too and I said there's Tarcutta
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the creek, the Marshall creek, and none of them are runnin'.  I said in '74, when they run they the creek, the Marshall creek, and none of them are runnin'.  I said in '74, when they run they
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was runnin' when '74 that's where we got, you know, all full, I said that's when it was, I said was runnin' when '74 that's where we got, you know, all full, I said that's when it was, I said
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and they're not runnin' this time, I said, you're not gunna get you're not gunna get 10 metres and they're not runnin' this time, I said, you're not gunna get you're not gunna get 10 metres
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down here.  He said, Yeah, I think we will.  I said No, anyway down here.  He said, Yeah, I think we will.  I said No, anyway
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turn oh, not trying to note meself, but it didn't get to the, the 10 metres down 'ere turn oh, not trying to note meself, but it didn't get to the, the 10 metres down 'ere
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bloomin here.  He said to me after this time he said, You was right before. I said Yeah, but bloomin here.  He said to me after this time he said, You was right before. I said Yeah, but
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if the all this, rain everywhere this time, the dams have come over if the all this, rain everywhere this time, the dams have come over
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filled up that quick. They was down to 74% before that rain.  Bloomin' hit filled up that quick. They was down to 74% before that rain.  Bloomin' hit
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I said ya, I said it's I reckon we will, I hon-, I said I reckon we will get flooded out. I said ya, I said it's I reckon we will, I hon-, I said I reckon we will get flooded out.
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as it turned out we [Sherry] Were. Yeah. [Bob] because. you get used to it when you to a as it turned out we [Sherry] Were. Yeah. [Bob] because. you get used to it when you to a
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a certain thing but they still should have, ah, well they've asked a certain thing but they still should have, ah, well they've asked
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about meetings of, getting the different parts on the river, comin' down, where they gonna about meetings of, getting the different parts on the river, comin' down, where they gonna
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have gauge, y'know gauge and tell you what the heighth is and, like, they had before years ago have gauge, y'know gauge and tell you what the heighth is and, like, they had before years ago
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Dick Corman, Miley, Miley Monagham knew and they had another bloke up, further up Dick Corman, Miley, Miley Monagham knew and they had another bloke up, further up
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up how high the river was, but all, all the heights we got over the last few years up how high the river was, but all, all the heights we got over the last few years
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the last, 2010, and this one they was all talking Gundagai, there's a lot the last, 2010, and this one they was all talking Gundagai, there's a lot
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of water [Sherry] Mm [Bob] waste between 'ere and Gundagai, flattens out, but they'd that's the only of water [Sherry] Mm [Bob] waste between 'ere and Gundagai, flattens out, but they'd that's the only
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way we, only report we got. We didn't know how much water this time was comin' in.  We way we, only report we got. We didn't know how much water this time was comin' in.  We
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knew it was knew it was
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a banker in Marshall Creek and all the other creeks was runnin', bankers an that but a banker in Marshall Creek and all the other creeks was runnin', bankers an that but
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we didn't know how much, you know, was comin' behind 'em, but they're trying to we didn't know how much, you know, was comin' behind 'em, but they're trying to
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rectrify that now. [Sherry] Mm. They've learnt. [Norma]Mm. [Bob]Yeah.  [Sherry] There were  rectrify that now. [Sherry] Mm. They've learnt. [Norma]Mm. [Bob]Yeah.  [Sherry] There were 
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a lot of meetings this time though. Um, was the, that one on the Sunday night the 1st one a lot of meetings this time though. Um, was the, that one on the Sunday night the 1st one
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 [Sherry] ?inaudible? that , James, Mc [Bob] No, no we.  [Sherry] Did you have meetings before that to let you know what was happening?  [Sherry] ?inaudible? that , James, Mc [Bob] No, no we.  [Sherry] Did you have meetings before that to let you know what was happening?
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[Bob] I think we had 2, didn't we? [Norma] Mm [Sherry] Mm [Bob] Went up there twice, anyway.  [Sherry] Mm, yeah, once and then the time [Bob] I think we had 2, didn't we? [Norma] Mm [Sherry] Mm [Bob] Went up there twice, anyway.  [Sherry] Mm, yeah, once and then the time
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you were told to leave.  [Bob] Mm.  [Norma] Mm.  [Sherry] And there'd been you were told to leave.  [Bob] Mm.  [Norma] Mm.  [Sherry] And there'd been
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a lot of meetings since.  [Bob] Yeah, well we got a progress society now. a lot of meetings since.  [Bob] Yeah, well we got a progress society now.
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[Bob] pro- they call it that  [Norma] Progress Association [Bob] n Association,  n that, we have [Bob] pro- they call it that  [Norma] Progress Association [Bob] n Association,  n that, we have
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a meeting [coughs] at the foot football hall down here, the first Wensdey of every month. a meeting [coughs] at the foot football hall down here, the first Wensdey of every month.
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[Sherry] Did you find that helpful?  [Bob] Well, a lot's come out of it. [Sherry] Did you find that helpful?  [Bob] Well, a lot's come out of it.
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but we, one chap that's been terrific like the head of it , here, he don't live here, he owns but we, one chap that's been terrific like the head of it , here, he don't live here, he owns
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a house up near the [Sherry] Laurie Blowes ? [Bob] Yeah, Laurie. He's, the work he does is unreal. a house up near the [Sherry] Laurie Blowes ? [Bob] Yeah, Laurie. He's, the work he does is unreal.
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and a and a
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that a lot of them found out through through insurance and different things that where they that a lot of them found out through through insurance and different things that where they
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could go and get stuff, you know, n , he had that, but the meetings I reckon they're, they're they're  could go and get stuff, you know, n , he had that, but the meetings I reckon they're, they're they're 
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they're a, they're great they are. They're n' a , and the meetings we get contact through they're a, they're great they are. They're n' a , and the meetings we get contact through
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from the Council to though, even the Mayor was over 'ere, the other last Wensdey. from the Council to though, even the Mayor was over 'ere, the other last Wensdey.
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The last meeting we had when he was over in, give us The last meeting we had when he was over in, give us
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a few pointers 'n what was, you know, going on and that so it was it was a few pointers 'n what was, you know, going on and that so it was it was
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quite good it was.  [Sherry] Mm. [Bob] Not that ah  [Norma] He wants some of the older residents to attend the meeting quite good it was.  [Sherry] Mm. [Bob] Not that ah  [Norma] He wants some of the older residents to attend the meeting
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next Monday night, to have a talk next Monday night, to have a talk
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a talk about different parts of North Wagga. The higher parts and the low parts. So that's something good. [Sherry] Mm. a talk about different parts of North Wagga. The higher parts and the low parts. So that's something good. [Sherry] Mm.
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[Sherry]Mm. So what did you take with you when you were evacuated? [laughs] just curious [Sherry]Mm. So what did you take with you when you were evacuated? [laughs] just curious
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[Sherry] curious.  [Bob, Sherry and Norma laugh]  [Norma] When we were told we'd have to be out [Sherry] curious.  [Bob, Sherry and Norma laugh]  [Norma] When we were told we'd have to be out
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out for 3 days, so what did I do, just grabbed out for 3 days, so what did I do, just grabbed
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a few sets a clothing and then we were out for nearly 3 months a few sets a clothing and then we were out for nearly 3 months
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so, we couldn't remember where we'd packed warmer clothes for the cooler months and so, we couldn't remember where we'd packed warmer clothes for the cooler months and
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sort of had to go and buy some but anyway it all evened out in the end.  [laughs] Yeah it's sort of had to go and buy some but anyway it all evened out in the end.  [laughs] Yeah it's
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[Norma] hard. [Bob] We got all our furniture out of the house when we come back and when the house had [Norma] hard. [Bob] We got all our furniture out of the house when we come back and when the house had
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to be, y'know, the wall and everythink had to be done and different things. The, we had to be, y'know, the wall and everythink had to be done and different things. The, we had
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a container.  'n we got a ah a big container a container.  'n we got a ah a big container
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 and got all our furniture n that , so there'd be nothin' in the house while they was [Sherry] Mm [Bob] workin', our kitch  and got all our furniture n that , so there'd be nothin' in the house while they was [Sherry] Mm [Bob] workin', our kitch
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kitchen cupboards and that it was it was real good and our son-in-law bloomin' he's kitchen cupboards and that it was it was real good and our son-in-law bloomin' he's
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a builder, he done all the buildin' an that and made it a lot easier on them and 'cos our a builder, he done all the buildin' an that and made it a lot easier on them and 'cos our
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carpet, it was down, we didn't get it up or anythink and we had to get new carpet and that but that carpet, it was down, we didn't get it up or anythink and we had to get new carpet and that but that
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was one of those things and in '74 it went too, didn't it? was one of those things and in '74 it went too, didn't it?
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All lino then, so, it was in the house when we first bought it.  Yeah, so went and All lino then, so, it was in the house when we first bought it.  Yeah, so went and
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We lost four wardrobes this time but no bedding or clothing, nothing like that, we, but we lost our  We lost four wardrobes this time but no bedding or clothing, nothing like that, we, but we lost our 
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our kitchen cupboards, laundry cupboards, and bathroom and, um, so all those our kitchen cupboards, laundry cupboards, and bathroom and, um, so all those
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[Norma] those are all, all [Bob] Hot water, hot water service, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] the stove, fridge. [Norma] Mm. We [Norma] those are all, all [Bob] Hot water, hot water service, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] the stove, fridge. [Norma] Mm. We
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never had any much damage done to the walls, only, just re-lined the bottom parts of never had any much damage done to the walls, only, just re-lined the bottom parts of
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the wall in the kitchen 'cause they were, um, made of the old masonite and it went all the wall in the kitchen 'cause they were, um, made of the old masonite and it went all
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woopy, so, we ended up with a, just about a com woopy, so, we ended up with a, just about a com
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a complete new kitchen out of it, which is good, but not a nice way to get it. a complete new kitchen out of it, which is good, but not a nice way to get it.
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But our other kitchen cupboards are only 4 years old, so, and they were just made outta that pressed tim But our other kitchen cupboards are only 4 years old, so, and they were just made outta that pressed tim
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timber and they just all fall to pieces. Mm. [Bob] Our grandson come over in timber and they just all fall to pieces. Mm. [Bob] Our grandson come over in
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a boat and the water was up virtually at its peak and he jumped over a boat and the water was up virtually at its peak and he jumped over
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the back, got out of, the gate was, was stuff up against the back gate, so he got over and there was the back, got out of, the gate was, was stuff up against the back gate, so he got over and there was
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a, um, a deep freeze that had, had tipped ah me wheat, one of the wheat ones had tipped up a, um, a deep freeze that had, had tipped ah me wheat, one of the wheat ones had tipped up
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It was up near the, instead of in down the middle of the yard it was up at near the back of It was up near the, instead of in down the middle of the yard it was up at near the back of
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the house.  So, he, it was in the water so he towed it back down then, and he was here and he got his the house.  So, he, it was in the water so he towed it back down then, and he was here and he got his
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photer even, sitting on photer even, sitting on
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a chair at the back, back verandah, it was nearly up to his knees and, bloomin', the time he left his a chair at the back, back verandah, it was nearly up to his knees and, bloomin', the time he left his
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mate got a photo out near the front and, bloomin', they come back the deep freeze mate got a photo out near the front and, bloomin', they come back the deep freeze
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was back up at the back of the house and that afternoon when the son come up it was back up at the back of the house and that afternoon when the son come up it
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it was down at the back gate, that's it was down at the back gate, that's
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how much it was floatin' and wood and had wood all over the yard, like me wood fire, the red gum  how much it was floatin' and wood and had wood all over the yard, like me wood fire, the red gum 
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it floated, it was all over the [laughs] over the yard, just through, you know, the way the current was changin' it floated, it was all over the [laughs] over the yard, just through, you know, the way the current was changin'
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and all like the water was cuttin' through, you know what I mean, but, in '74 there wouldn't and all like the water was cuttin' through, you know what I mean, but, in '74 there wouldn't
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have been, there wouldn't have been half the places around  have been, there wouldn't have been half the places around 
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in North Wagga that had fences like like they got now in North Wagga that had fences like like they got now
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like these um, um colorbond fences and that, like tin fen- that, they never had that like these um, um colorbond fences and that, like tin fen- that, they never had that
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they had palin' fences and they had palin' fences and
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they got washed so they put put those in, but bloomin' eh, but that's got to change they got washed so they put put those in, but bloomin' eh, but that's got to change
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the water to a certain thing too [Sherry] Mm [Bob]  like as far as where it goes through. the water to a certain thing too [Sherry] Mm [Bob]  like as far as where it goes through.
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Yeah, me, at me son's place there was Yeah, me, at me son's place there was
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they had a little nettin' fence and that through him and his neighbour and he had they had a little nettin' fence and that through him and his neighbour and he had
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a lot of that pine cuttings and they, they all floated over the fence, they was all a lot of that pine cuttings and they, they all floated over the fence, they was all
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in, in there.  You gathered them up, they come over the fence into his place.  That was in, in there.  You gathered them up, they come over the fence into his place.  That was
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comin' from, there's  comin' from, there's 
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a sane the way the river runs, they was comin' upstream and down the bottom a sane the way the river runs, they was comin' upstream and down the bottom
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comin' back up headin' out that way. [Sherry] Ah. [Norma] Yeah I saw them on the blue tarp, he had comin' back up headin' out that way. [Sherry] Ah. [Norma] Yeah I saw them on the blue tarp, he had
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he had it stacked on a blue tarp and it just lifted it up and it was hanging over the fence. he had it stacked on a blue tarp and it just lifted it up and it was hanging over the fence.
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Yes, he does some funny things that water. Yes, he does some funny things that water.
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Did you get much help from the um the Fire Service?  Did they come and um, spray your Did you get much help from the um the Fire Service?  Did they come and um, spray your
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[Bob] No, well they they come and  [Sherry] The Army  [Bob] No, they they come and um washed all me drums and everythink that was  [Bob] No, well they they come and  [Sherry] The Army  [Bob] No, they they come and um washed all me drums and everythink that was 
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down the, washed all me drums and everything for the ah, what had me pigeon feed and everything in, but as down the, washed all me drums and everything for the ah, what had me pigeon feed and everything in, but as
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as far as the army n, ah and the ones that was going and picking up rubbish and everythink as far as the army n, ah and the ones that was going and picking up rubbish and everythink
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I, I  reckon they did a I, I  reckon they did a
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a marvelous job, well, I had one of them real big skip bins. They put one in the lane out the a marvelous job, well, I had one of them real big skip bins. They put one in the lane out the
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back and they had all the feed and it would, nearly 3 quarters of one of them big chip bins full of ah back and they had all the feed and it would, nearly 3 quarters of one of them big chip bins full of ah
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grain and that. They come it, a down 'ere and with  grain and that. They come it, a down 'ere and with 
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a little ah, bobcat,  and load it into their , outta, to get rid of it and took it away because a little ah, bobcat,  and load it into their , outta, to get rid of it and took it away because
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it was, would have smelt an that they, but as far as pickin' up stuff and helpin' people get stuff it was, would have smelt an that they, but as far as pickin' up stuff and helpin' people get stuff
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out of their houses, a lot of out of their houses, a lot of
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people said oh they, they wasn't happy with 'em, but I reckon they did it, y'know, specially eldery people said oh they, they wasn't happy with 'em, but I reckon they did it, y'know, specially eldery
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people, you know, they couldn't do it 'n that, they [Sherry] Mm [Bob] they was goin' around, they was   people, you know, they couldn't do it 'n that, they [Sherry] Mm [Bob] they was goin' around, they was  
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checkin' up with people what they, what they could do 'n that, y'know, and that it was  checkin' up with people what they, what they could do 'n that, y'know, and that it was 
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I reckon they did a, and the Council, ah, they said they should've left bins over here longer n that I reckon they did a, and the Council, ah, they said they should've left bins over here longer n that
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the Council cartin' stuff away and that, I reckon they did the Council cartin' stuff away and that, I reckon they did
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a marvelous job meself, I,  [Sherry] Mm.  [Bob] Yeah, I reckon they was good as far as help n that, it was a marvelous job meself, I,  [Sherry] Mm.  [Bob] Yeah, I reckon they was good as far as help n that, it was
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A lot of people didn't realise how how much help, y'know, they did get, y'know A lot of people didn't realise how how much help, y'know, they did get, y'know
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a lot of people.  [Sherry] Did you go along to the barbecues and the get-togethers  [Bob] Oh, yeah, up a lot of people.  [Sherry] Did you go along to the barbecues and the get-togethers  [Bob] Oh, yeah, up
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we used to we used to
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they used to, we used to, ah, have um a meal up near the Palm and Pawn there and it was unreal. they used to, we used to, ah, have um a meal up near the Palm and Pawn there and it was unreal.
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You'd meet the other people an' that an' have a bit of a talk an' everythink, but, it was the meals they You'd meet the other people an' that an' have a bit of a talk an' everythink, but, it was the meals they
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put on it was, was unreal, like, and there was people over here workin'  they'd go up put on it was, was unreal, like, and there was people over here workin'  they'd go up
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and the Army, y'know, chaps an' that an' an' there was drinks an' they had things for the children and the Army, y'know, chaps an' that an' an' there was drinks an' they had things for the children
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an' it was over here an' that an' it was real good.  Really, you couldn't ask for anymore of that an' it was over here an' that an' it was real good.  Really, you couldn't ask for anymore of that
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that, it was, bloomin'.  Even in '56 that, it was, bloomin'.  Even in '56
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In '56 it was up at the showground, they put meals and everythink on In '56 it was up at the showground, they put meals and everythink on
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up there,  the RAF an' that they come an' done the cook n that up there.  [Sherry] Mm [Bob] We used to go from there up there,  the RAF an' that they come an' done the cook n that up there.  [Sherry] Mm [Bob] We used to go from there
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down to the railway station and catch the rail motor and go out the abbotoirs to work  down to the railway station and catch the rail motor and go out the abbotoirs to work 
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catch the train back to the, we used to go down to the, the bloomin', ah, down there catch the train back to the, we used to go down to the, the bloomin', ah, down there
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showground, yeah. showground, yeah.
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the good ol'days. [laughs].  [Sherry] [laughs] The good ol' days . Yeah. the good ol'days. [laughs].  [Sherry] [laughs] The good ol' days . Yeah.
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[Bob] Yeah [laughs].  [Sherry] Mm. [Norma] [laughs] We didn't know what bored is [laughs] [Bob] Well, bloomin, we got our cupboards an' that [Bob] Yeah [laughs].  [Sherry] Mm. [Norma] [laughs] We didn't know what bored is [laughs] [Bob] Well, bloomin, we got our cupboards an' that
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we can just take everythink, the doors n that off 'em now, n the wood n everythink, there's we can just take everythink, the doors n that off 'em now, n the wood n everythink, there's
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a new wood out that, um, it's like a plastic kind of a a new wood out that, um, it's like a plastic kind of a
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a wood plastic kind of thing and its, um, um, it it won't swell or anythink a wood plastic kind of thing and its, um, um, it it won't swell or anythink
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and if you just take the doors off 'em you just off your cupboards an' you haven't and if you just take the doors off 'em you just off your cupboards an' you haven't
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we gotta, we 'aven't gotta to do anythink with them then, like they're, they put 'em back [Sherry] Mm [Bob] on when a  we gotta, we 'aven't gotta to do anythink with them then, like they're, they put 'em back [Sherry] Mm [Bob] on when a 
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they're cleaned out an'.  [Sherry] That's very good, isn't it?  [Bob] Yeah, nearly flood proven at the present time.  they're cleaned out an'.  [Sherry] That's very good, isn't it?  [Bob] Yeah, nearly flood proven at the present time. 
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[Norma] The other day to fix up our insurance and I wanted to get it [Norma] The other day to fix up our insurance and I wanted to get it
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away from Christmas to the middle of the year and Devvy if you explain to them over there that Mum and Dad's house away from Christmas to the middle of the year and Devvy if you explain to them over there that Mum and Dad's house
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is pretty well flood proof , yep, and she said, yeah, but what if a bigger flood comes and is pretty well flood proof , yep, and she said, yeah, but what if a bigger flood comes and
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your house floats away. [laughs] They don't give you much hope, do they? your house floats away. [laughs] They don't give you much hope, do they?
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[Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob] No. [Sherry] Yeah. [Norma] Mm. [Sherry] So, can you think of anything else [Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob] No. [Sherry] Yeah. [Norma] Mm. [Sherry] So, can you think of anything else
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about the, any of the floods, um, any comparisons, any about the, any of the floods, um, any comparisons, any
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remarkable stories or  [Norma] Well, 1974 the flood was remarkable stories or  [Norma] Well, 1974 the flood was
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a bit different to the 2012, twenty twelve one because there was no a bit different to the 2012, twenty twelve one because there was no
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Wagga was sort of sacrificed I think , to protect Wagga and that was the 1st flood Wagga was sort of sacrificed I think , to protect Wagga and that was the 1st flood
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that had ever been in that place [rustling sound] and Bob has said before they used to bring the Army ducks across to the front of here  that had ever been in that place [rustling sound] and Bob has said before they used to bring the Army ducks across to the front of here 
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in the '50's floods, yeah, so, I r-, we have been sacrificed. in the '50's floods, yeah, so, I r-, we have been sacrificed.
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That this time with the levee banks, I don't know, really, if they are such That this time with the levee banks, I don't know, really, if they are such
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a good idea because it just makes a good idea because it just makes
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a big dam, and, holds the water in more, where, without the levee banks, it clears away a big dam, and, holds the water in more, where, without the levee banks, it clears away
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I don't know if I'm right I don't know if I'm right
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or wrong, but one little funny story of the '74 flood, um, we got or wrong, but one little funny story of the '74 flood, um, we got
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word that we had to be out.  We had everything all packed up and  word that we had to be out.  We had everything all packed up and 
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a friend of Bobby's, Peter a friend of Bobby's, Peter
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 Givens was over here and we were going to have a bath n that before we  Givens was over here and we were going to have a bath n that before we
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emptied the hot water system.  Anyway, word come around that we had to go, so  emptied the hot water system.  Anyway, word come around that we had to go, so 
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Glen was in bed, here, and we loaded up the station wagon and took, took, Bobby took Glen was in bed, here, and we loaded up the station wagon and took, took, Bobby took
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Glen and I over to Mum's place in Rhoda Avenue and Bobby got him out of the car and Glen and I over to Mum's place in Rhoda Avenue and Bobby got him out of the car and
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cos Glen put him into bed and we were no sooner out the front door and he come running out after us, "I don't cos Glen put him into bed and we were no sooner out the front door and he come running out after us, "I don't
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like Nanny's bed, it tipped me out"  He must of woke up with like Nanny's bed, it tipped me out"  He must of woke up with
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a fright and took off [laughs]. That's one funny incident of it all. a fright and took off [laughs]. That's one funny incident of it all.
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little memories. Mm. [Sherry] Mm. [Norma] Mm. [Bob] Funniest thing on this one when we mentioned about how they put the meals on little memories. Mm. [Sherry] Mm. [Norma] Mm. [Bob] Funniest thing on this one when we mentioned about how they put the meals on
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we went up there for a few days and Glenny, our son, was there an' cos' he was at that we went up there for a few days and Glenny, our son, was there an' cos' he was at that
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particular time he was back in thongs and, bloomin', he went up to the ah parents of particular time he was back in thongs and, bloomin', he went up to the ah parents of
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young lass was there and he, kind of knew her and and knew her husband, well he was there with him. young lass was there and he, kind of knew her and and knew her husband, well he was there with him.
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She said to Glen said, "How are you, today?" and the words he come out with 'cos She said to Glen said, "How are you, today?" and the words he come out with 'cos
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he's a pretty er, rou-  He said, "No bl-, no bloody good".  An' she said, "What's the matter?" he's a pretty er, rou-  He said, "No bl-, no bloody good".  An' she said, "What's the matter?"
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An' he said, "Oh", he said, "I'm sick of the water", he said, "Getting round An' he said, "Oh", he said, "I'm sick of the water", he said, "Getting round
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the water", he says, "It's got to me".  She said, "What have you got a cold?".  He said, "No, haven't got the water", he says, "It's got to me".  She said, "What have you got a cold?".  He said, "No, haven't got
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a cold", he said.  He said, "But gettin' around the water", he said, "Me toes a cold", he said.  He said, "But gettin' around the water", he said, "Me toes
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are growing together".  And she said, "Your toes?".  He said,"Yeah, look at 'em", and in in his right foot, are growing together".  And she said, "Your toes?".  He said,"Yeah, look at 'em", and in in his right foot,
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put his right foot out, and he's put his right foot out, and he's
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his little, little 2 toes are g- together, joined together.  She said, "Did the water do that?" his little, little 2 toes are g- together, joined together.  She said, "Did the water do that?"
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and the oth-, he said, "Yeah, an' look the other one's only halfway yeah".  [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] He's got webbed toes. and the oth-, he said, "Yeah, an' look the other one's only halfway yeah".  [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] He's got webbed toes.
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I had tears in me eyes laughing at. He's a dry I had tears in me eyes laughing at. He's a dry
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[Bob] a sort of bloke, yeah.  [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] She she was that wrapt, she thought it was the water that joined his    [Bob] a sort of bloke, yeah.  [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] She she was that wrapt, she thought it was the water that joined his   
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toes to- [laughs].  Just little, it made my day, you know. [Sherry] Gave him webbed feet [Bob]I forgot about everythink  toes to- [laughs].  Just little, it made my day, you know. [Sherry] Gave him webbed feet [Bob]I forgot about everythink 
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[Norma] [laughs] that went on, y'know, he just, the way he come out with it.  But he wanted to stay, really.  [Sherry] Mm. [Norma] [laughs] that went on, y'know, he just, the way he come out with it.  But he wanted to stay, really.  [Sherry] Mm.
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And that to see what it was like 'cos he'd never been in our, like never been over And that to see what it was like 'cos he'd never been in our, like never been over
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to a flood who in 2010 he walked around with me and that over here an' an', bloomin', to a flood who in 2010 he walked around with me and that over here an' an', bloomin',
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bloomin' that, like, he didn't, he didn't see where, how, water got in n that bloomin' that, like, he didn't, he didn't see where, how, water got in n that
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[Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob]Yeah it was [Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob]Yeah it was
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a lesson to 'im, is why he stayed really [Sherry] He, he was just interested in seeing what a lesson to 'im, is why he stayed really [Sherry] He, he was just interested in seeing what
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was going on [Bob] Oh he wanted to see n that, you know [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob] 'cause he'd heard a lot was going on [Bob] Oh he wanted to see n that, you know [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob] 'cause he'd heard a lot
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a lot you know, how the floods n that over the [Sherry] Mm [Bob] years, n, the only time  a lot you know, how the floods n that over the [Sherry] Mm [Bob] years, n, the only time 
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away for 11 years, he was in Darwin for away for 11 years, he was in Darwin for
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[Bob] 11 years [Sherry] Mm. what was he doing in Darwin? [Bob]Oh, anythink was goin' [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob]Yeah, yeah, he worked n [Bob] 11 years [Sherry] Mm. what was he doing in Darwin? [Bob]Oh, anythink was goin' [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob]Yeah, yeah, he worked n
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off for a while off for a while
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a while he was on one of them big, ah, ready mix trucks there's some, whater they call it, ah,  a while he was on one of them big, ah, ready mix trucks there's some, whater they call it, ah, 
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so, um, concrete n that , up there n, are you worked out there on the roads, to buildin' sites n that so, um, concrete n that , up there n, are you worked out there on the roads, to buildin' sites n that
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and that he, he liked it up there, he, at he ah, he bloomin', he reckons he did, you know,  and that he, he liked it up there, he, at he ah, he bloomin', he reckons he did, you know, 
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he, he wished he would a stayed in one way but en he said, he made up 'is mind we when on a he, he wished he would a stayed in one way but en he said, he made up 'is mind we when on a
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went up there that we was gettin' old, and 'e wanted to come 'ome an', be 'ere and go around an that  went up there that we was gettin' old, and 'e wanted to come 'ome an', be 'ere and go around an that 
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you know, when, well he was mum's little white 'eaded boy, he used to go down an cut 'er wood n everythink before 'e went you know, when, well he was mum's little white 'eaded boy, he used to go down an cut 'er wood n everythink before 'e went
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went to Darwin n that, but, that's why he ends up with a, with a house n that [Sherry] Mm [Bob] Yeah [Sherry] How did his how- house went to Darwin n that, but, that's why he ends up with a, with a house n that [Sherry] Mm [Bob] Yeah [Sherry] How did his how- house
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house fare in the flood , the recent flood [Bob] Oh it never got much damage,  he lost a fair bit house fare in the flood , the recent flood [Bob] Oh it never got much damage,  he lost a fair bit
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not much damage was it [Norma] Mm [Bob] and even the , co never 'ad   not much damage was it [Norma] Mm [Bob] and even the , co never 'ad  
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a real lot in it, like it in, he lost 'is big recycle thing n that, 'cause he 'ad, 'e 'ad  a real lot in it, like it in, he lost 'is big recycle thing n that, 'cause he 'ad, 'e 'ad 
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insurance 'cause it was still in my name n that, by time he couldn't get insured n that  insurance 'cause it was still in my name n that, by time he couldn't get insured n that 
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but, he, ah, he only had it for contents inside, wan it [Norma] Yeah [Bob] an' that when it was on the wall outside but, he, ah, he only had it for contents inside, wan it [Norma] Yeah [Bob] an' that when it was on the wall outside
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side so it didn't but he didn't lose a real, lot he got side so it didn't but he didn't lose a real, lot he got
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a lot of stuff what he bought back from Darwin an' that, um, like different a lot of stuff what he bought back from Darwin an' that, um, like different
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Things in his chainsaw, a coupla chainsaws n that, but othern that 'e didn't Things in his chainsaw, a coupla chainsaws n that, but othern that 'e didn't
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'cos he put most of his stuff in the big, 2 big trailers n, they just took 'em out you know 'cos he put most of his stuff in the big, 2 big trailers n, they just took 'em out you know
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like they was gone, re [Sherry] And his wife and two children were evacuated [Bob] No they went straight  like they was gone, re [Sherry] And his wife and two children were evacuated [Bob] No they went straight 
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straight up to me eldest girl's place, up to his sister's place, they stayed up at [Sherry] Oh  straight up to me eldest girl's place, up to his sister's place, they stayed up at [Sherry] Oh 
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[Bob] that went [Sherry]Oh, at Julie's [Bob] Julie's, [Sherry] oh right [Bob] yeah they stayed at Julie's, the 2 little children and then [Bob] that went [Sherry]Oh, at Julie's [Bob] Julie's, [Sherry] oh right [Bob] yeah they stayed at Julie's, the 2 little children and then
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[Sherry] Did he see many looters, at ? [Bob] No he didn't see many looters, bloomin' eh [Sherry] Did he see many looters, at ? [Bob] No he didn't see many looters, bloomin' eh
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around 'cause he was only walkin', but, they, they, they'd patrol pretty well the around 'cause he was only walkin', but, they, they, they'd patrol pretty well the
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rescue club  and it went around, 'cause the grandson come in from Cartwright's Hill,  and they want rescue club  and it went around, 'cause the grandson come in from Cartwright's Hill,  and they want
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to come here and after 'e checked up on the birds an' that, 'e bloomin', 'e and 'is mate  to come here and after 'e checked up on the birds an' that, 'e bloomin', 'e and 'is mate 
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got a coupla photos taken that an he went down, went into Glen's driveway, an' 'e  got a coupla photos taken that an he went down, went into Glen's driveway, an' 'e 
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when he drove in he just said, motor of the boat tickin' over they did, n, bloomin', he said Glen  when he drove in he just said, motor of the boat tickin' over they did, n, bloomin', he said Glen 
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Glen McFarland, you've gotta get out , an' bloomin', no sooner said that than a bloke, bloke come in  Glen McFarland, you've gotta get out , an' bloomin', no sooner said that than a bloke, bloke come in 
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in be'ind 'im,  he said You're the ones who's gotta get out in be'ind 'im,  he said You're the ones who's gotta get out
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[Bob] Out [laughs] [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] Here they wasn't supposed to be in 'ere but [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] soon as he seen who it um, the [Bob] Out [laughs] [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] Here they wasn't supposed to be in 'ere but [Sherry] [laughs] [Bob] soon as he seen who it um, the
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policeman seen who it was [Norma] Bradley [Bob] Bradley, er, Hallam, seen who it was, said oh, ?inaudible? how'd ya policeman seen who it was [Norma] Bradley [Bob] Bradley, er, Hallam, seen who it was, said oh, ?inaudible? how'd ya
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come in? He said, oh, down the stock route. He said Oh well he said come in? He said, oh, down the stock route. He said Oh well he said
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soon as ya stop talkin' to yer uncle an' that, he said, know, not supposeda be in 'ere, said ya go, so  soon as ya stop talkin' to yer uncle an' that, he said, know, not supposeda be in 'ere, said ya go, so 
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they went you know just after they was talkin' ta Glen, but, bloomin', ah, he said but they, they was    they went you know just after they was talkin' ta Glen, but, bloomin', ah, he said but they, they was   
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patrollin' around any boats, and there was a few blokes that was 'ere in them 2 storey places patrollin' around any boats, and there was a few blokes that was 'ere in them 2 storey places
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they had a boat each you know, like they was goin' around just checking n that, the lootin's went on they had a boat each you know, like they was goin' around just checking n that, the lootin's went on
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on since the flood [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob] that's when there's been a lot, a lot of thing boat, boat motors n that went [Sherry]Oh mm [Bob]That's went on since the flood [Sherry] Oh ok [Bob] that's when there's been a lot, a lot of thing boat, boat motors n that went [Sherry]Oh mm [Bob]That's went
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went walkabout an',  that, um, ah, whatchacallum, down 'ere, at the , Watts down 'ere   went walkabout an',  that, um, ah, whatchacallum, down 'ere, at the , Watts down 'ere  
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The Black Swan, they lost the blood- they took their The Black Swan, they lost the blood- they took their
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their trailer and, and, oh, their levelly that works on the road, I forget 'ow many thousands their trailer and, and, oh, their levelly that works on the road, I forget 'ow many thousands
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a dollar's worth of stuff they took from there. Bloomin eh, but there's been boat motors n that taken  a dollar's worth of stuff they took from there. Bloomin eh, but there's been boat motors n that taken 
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there's still they broke into the shop the other day, bloomin' took the cigarette thing you there's still they broke into the shop the other day, bloomin' took the cigarette thing you
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break a winder and took the cigarette, [Sherry] Ah [Bob] all the cigarette thing [Sherry] 'cause there's not many people break a winder and took the cigarette, [Sherry] Ah [Bob] all the cigarette thing [Sherry] 'cause there's not many people
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here in North Wagga at the moment [Bob] That's what it is, yeah [Sherry] Yeah ok [Bob] bloomin' eh  [Sherry] I believe Glen had an encounter with a  here in North Wagga at the moment [Bob] That's what it is, yeah [Sherry] Yeah ok [Bob] bloomin' eh  [Sherry] I believe Glen had an encounter with a 
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a snake while he was here ? [laughs] [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] Yeah it was in the shed. A black, er, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] a red bellied black. But we'd never seen  a snake while he was here ? [laughs] [Norma] [laughs] [Bob] Yeah it was in the shed. A black, er, [Norma] Yeah [Bob] a red bellied black. But we'd never seen 
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when we come 'ome, an bloomin, [Sherry] Mm [Bob]an' they mostly clear off, they're, they're not vicious when we come 'ome, an bloomin, [Sherry] Mm [Bob]an' they mostly clear off, they're, they're not vicious
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they had was a , big brown was across the road 'ere, they seen , I didn't see it, I went over there to see they had was a , big brown was across the road 'ere, they seen , I didn't see it, I went over there to see
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a couple times to see could I see it, Debby seen it, an Norm, and then Rebecca Plentys a couple times to see could I see it, Debby seen it, an Norm, and then Rebecca Plentys
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?inaudible? they seen it, and then it disappeared and, down the road 'ere, I seen a   ?inaudible? they seen it, and then it disappeared and, down the road 'ere, I seen a  
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a coupla times I tried ta I was gonna run over it one day but it got away, another car come along and  a coupla times I tried ta I was gonna run over it one day but it got away, another car come along and 
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along and it went, it was layin' along that side of the road and then  along and it went, it was layin' along that side of the road and then 
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a few days later it was in the middle of the road and [Norma] Someone else ?inaudible? [Bob] it was a few days later it was in the middle of the road and [Norma] Someone else ?inaudible? [Bob] it was
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[Sherry] ?inaudible? [Bob] it was about six foot , nearly, or nearly six foot of brown, it'd been run over down there on   [Sherry] ?inaudible? [Bob] it was about six foot , nearly, or nearly six foot of brown, it'd been run over down there on  
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on the road but, I never 'eard of anyone hav- havin' any around their house n that on the road but, I never 'eard of anyone hav- havin' any around their house n that
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that , they [Sherry] did you see any big worms? [Bob] Nah? [Sherry] that's what the , the Bagleys were talking about, the   that , they [Sherry] did you see any big worms? [Bob] Nah? [Sherry] that's what the , the Bagleys were talking about, the  
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they had photos of these, big worms. [Bob] No we never [Norma]Oh [Sherry] And um, and spiders, did you see spiders? [Norma] Yeah we had those spider webs they had photos of these, big worms. [Bob] No we never [Norma]Oh [Sherry] And um, and spiders, did you see spiders? [Norma] Yeah we had those spider webs
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chair, they were, I've never seen chair, they were, I've never seen
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seen spiderwebs like they were before, even at, when after the river went  seen spiderwebs like they were before, even at, when after the river went 
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down Debby and I went for a  down Debby and I went for a 
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a drive out around um, Cartwright's Hill, and they were all on the grass out there. Makes you wonder what a drive out around um, Cartwright's Hill, and they were all on the grass out there. Makes you wonder what
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what what
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about nature doesn't it [Sherry] Mm [Norma] Mm [Bob] Yeah there was all  that levee bank along there warren it [Norma] Mm [Bob] goin' along there   about nature doesn't it [Sherry] Mm [Norma] Mm [Bob] Yeah there was all  that levee bank along there warren it [Norma] Mm [Bob] goin' along there  
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there, but, yeah, she ah, when that '70, '74 there, but, yeah, she ah, when that '70, '74
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flood when it went down I got over 'ere flood when it went down I got over 'ere
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a come in the front door , we 'ad lino in 'ere, [makes whooshing noise] down I went [Sherry] Ah [Bob] slipped straight from underneat me  a come in the front door , we 'ad lino in 'ere, [makes whooshing noise] down I went [Sherry] Ah [Bob] slipped straight from underneat me 
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had gumboots and slipped straight from under, on the lino, 'cause a mud had gumboots and slipped straight from under, on the lino, 'cause a mud
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the mud was on, this was, we 'adn'ta been ouuta the mud was on, this was, we 'adn'ta been ouuta
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 [Norma] Mm [Bob] they let us come ove- , you know we got over 'ere pretty quick before   [Norma] Mm [Bob] they let us come ove- , you know we got over 'ere pretty quick before 
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because there was water in the bottom, there was 3 foot of water, down near the bottom of the   because there was water in the bottom, there was 3 foot of water, down near the bottom of the  
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of the levee bank on the inside, and no water on the outside, because once it get of the levee bank on the inside, and no water on the outside, because once it get
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it gets in, North Wagga, down the bottom end, it fills up like a dam, it just comes back up it gets in, North Wagga, down the bottom end, it fills up like a dam, it just comes back up
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back up, 'cause it can't get out like that, an that's the low end, so it just [Sherry] Mm [Bob] [sticky tape noise in background] fills back up then  back up, 'cause it can't get out like that, an that's the low end, so it just [Sherry] Mm [Bob] [sticky tape noise in background] fills back up then 
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then, an' bloomin' eh, but, they, they dug a hole,  then, an' bloomin' eh, but, they, they dug a hole, 
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a hole in the levee bank then and let the water out [Sherry] Oh [Bob] 2 of them, they put 2, 1 near the Black Swan and one near a hole in the levee bank then and let the water out [Sherry] Oh [Bob] 2 of them, they put 2, 1 near the Black Swan and one near
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one round, off Marrar Street, and then they just pushed the dirty over and 'aven't patched it properly yet , they was gonna one round, off Marrar Street, and then they just pushed the dirty over and 'aven't patched it properly yet , they was gonna
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was going to do it but they haven't [Sherry] Mm [Bob] got around to it  was going to do it but they haven't [Sherry] Mm [Bob] got around to it 
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So you wanna 'ave a talk to Glen one day do ya ? [Sherry] Well I was wondering [laughs] [Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob] Yeah [Sherry] OK I'll have a chat So you wanna 'ave a talk to Glen one day do ya ? [Sherry] Well I was wondering [laughs] [Norma] ?inaudible? [Bob] Yeah [Sherry] OK I'll have a chat
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a chat to Glen yeah [Norma] Mm [Sherry] Yeah. So, anything else about the flood?   a chat to Glen yeah [Norma] Mm [Sherry] Yeah. So, anything else about the flood?  
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floods, I can't think of anything else [Norma] No [Bob] no [Norma]I think we've just about got it all covered [Sherry]Mm. ok.  floods, I can't think of anything else [Norma] No [Bob] no [Norma]I think we've just about got it all covered [Sherry]Mm. ok. 
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thank you very much [Bob] eh [Sherry] that was really good [Bob] you fill both of them in did ya love [Norma] yeah I think I got    thank you very much [Bob] eh [Sherry] that was really good [Bob] you fill both of them in did ya love [Norma] yeah I think I got