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As I mentioned before, Selina Samuels is here too. And Selina you have some views about the impact of the role on your parents. As I mentioned before, Selina Samuels is here too. And Selina you have some views about the impact of the role on your parents.
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I do. Um, when, when Daddy accepted the role, I do. Um, when, when Daddy accepted the role,
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and for the first few years of their, the role, that I see that they really did together. and for the first few years of their, the role, that I see that they really did together.
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I wasn't in, I was in the UK, I wasn't in Australia, I wasn't in, I was in the UK, I wasn't in Australia,
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but for a couple of the years, I was living in the back, in the, in the back garden, in a shed in the back of the garden at Bronte. So I, I was there but for a couple of the years, I was living in the back, in the, in the back garden, in a shed in the back of the garden at Bronte. So I, I was there
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when they were collected by the car, when they were collected by the car,
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and drove off to several events, and brought back and all that sort of thing. I think they worked extraordinarily hard, and drove off to several events, and brought back and all that sort of thing. I think they worked extraordinarily hard,
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and in fact, if I recall correctly, they did at one point tally up the number of speeches and presentations and in fact, if I recall correctly, they did at one point tally up the number of speeches and presentations
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and events that they attended, over the course of a year. I can't remember what the number was, but we were all very surprised by just how many, and how many Mummy did. So they were both and events that they attended, over the course of a year. I can't remember what the number was, but we were all very surprised by just how many, and how many Mummy did. So they were both
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working very, very hard. I do think it is a shared role, and because of the nature of, ah, patriarchy, working very, very hard. I do think it is a shared role, and because of the nature of, ah, patriarchy,
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it was always assumed, I think, that because the Governor had always - until, of course, ah, Professor Bashir - there'd always been men with wives, and there was an expectation, that was probably it was always assumed, I think, that because the Governor had always - until, of course, ah, Professor Bashir - there'd always been men with wives, and there was an expectation, that was probably
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not really interrogated. So, I think they worked extremely hard, and I remember days not really interrogated. So, I think they worked extremely hard, and I remember days
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when there was a very finely tuned thing about going somewhere in the morning, back, change clothes, something else in the afternoon, when there was a very finely tuned thing about going somewhere in the morning, back, change clothes, something else in the afternoon,
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and having some, something little to snack on, and a whiskey, on the way to the next thing. Um, and then they'd come home, and having some, something little to snack on, and a whiskey, on the way to the next thing. Um, and then they'd come home,
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and I could hear them from, from my room at the back, I could, because and I could hear them from, from my room at the back, I could, because
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my father was deaf and therefore a very, very loud speaker. [laughter] And I could hear them my father was deaf and therefore a very, very loud speaker. [laughter] And I could hear them
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come in, and I'd, I'd come down through the garden to have a glass of wine with them, and there'd be some very funny stories which come in, and I'd, I'd come down through the garden to have a glass of wine with them, and there'd be some very funny stories which
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I won't tell. Um, but there was some often very funny stories to be told about the people who had said this and that. Um, and when, I won't tell. Um, but there was some often very funny stories to be told about the people who had said this and that. Um, and when,
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when they had, um, the few, not that many occasions where you had, um, motorcycle escorts to go to some particularly important events, and they were, they'd all, they'd all when they had, um, the few, not that many occasions where you had, um, motorcycle escorts to go to some particularly important events, and they were, they'd all, they'd all
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appear on, on Evans Street in Bronte. appear on, on Evans Street in Bronte.
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And all the neighbours would come out. And, and lovely Glad from down the street, that lovely dear Gladys who used to come up, And all the neighbours would come out. And, and lovely Glad from down the street, that lovely dear Gladys who used to come up,
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and always referred to Daddy as 'Sir', and always referred to Daddy as 'Sir',
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and would say, would cross-examine the drivers, the motorcyclists, "How is Sir?" And I think she was very concerned that he was working very hard, and would say, would cross-examine the drivers, the motorcyclists, "How is Sir?" And I think she was very concerned that he was working very hard,
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and she would say, and she would say,
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and if I happened to be also observing these cops on their ... "How is Sir?" Um, and in fact you and Daddy used to walk around the neighbourhood, and if I happened to be also observing these cops on their ... "How is Sir?" Um, and in fact you and Daddy used to walk around the neighbourhood,
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and people would, sort of, just salute to... And Daddy'd be in his running shorts [laughter] with his, with, with, and his, you know, and people would, sort of, just salute to... And Daddy'd be in his running shorts [laughter] with his, with, with, and his, you know,
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and do his walking, and there'd people just going, just a little, little salute, just a little. Um .. So I think the way that the neighbourhood, the way that the and do his walking, and there'd people just going, just a little, little salute, just a little. Um .. So I think the way that the neighbourhood, the way that the
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community just accepted, I, I know that we think about all those community just accepted, I, I know that we think about all those
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people who objected to the fact that you didn't go to live in Government House, but actually they were the vocal minority, which is often the case. I think the vast majority of people people who objected to the fact that you didn't go to live in Government House, but actually they were the vocal minority, which is often the case. I think the vast majority of people
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thought it was rather charming, and, and were, found it very endearing that, that Daddy bought the Christmas shopping. He did his own Christmas shopping, and thought it was rather charming, and, and were, found it very endearing that, that Daddy bought the Christmas shopping. He did his own Christmas shopping, and
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queued in David Jones for a belt, and all of that sort of thing, is a, is... I mean, we think of it as Australian, don't we. And, and to me queued in David Jones for a belt, and all of that sort of thing, is a, is... I mean, we think of it as Australian, don't we. And, and to me
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I think that was actually a positive and not a negative. Um, so my impression is that they worked extraordinarily hard, I think that was actually a positive and not a negative. Um, so my impression is that they worked extraordinarily hard,
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and that, that thing of always being warm, and always smiling and always being positive, and that, that thing of always being warm, and always smiling and always being positive,
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which can get fairly exhausting. You'd say, when you had your time off, and go, you went to Smith's Lake, "We don't have to smile for 7 days." [Mrs Samuels] Yes, yes, smiling. And I think it was, it was always, which can get fairly exhausting. You'd say, when you had your time off, and go, you went to Smith's Lake, "We don't have to smile for 7 days." [Mrs Samuels] Yes, yes, smiling. And I think it was, it was always,
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always seemed I can't remember who they are or what their names are. And so it was always a bit very frustrating. But, no, I agree, and I think the whole role I think was actually changed, we changed it, really, and I think that's something to be proud of. [Roslyn] Those moments of respite from the role, always seemed I can't remember who they are or what their names are. And so it was always a bit very frustrating. But, no, I agree, and I think the whole role I think was actually changed, we changed it, really, and I think that's something to be proud of. [Roslyn] Those moments of respite from the role,
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when you went to Smith's Lake, did you do that very often? [Mrs Samuels] We couldn't because so many things happened on the weekends. We couldn't go away for two days without someone having a, an annual meeting or.. [Selina Samuels] You used to, I think you used to, you blocked it out at the beginning of the when you went to Smith's Lake, did you do that very often? [Mrs Samuels] We couldn't because so many things happened on the weekends. We couldn't go away for two days without someone having a, an annual meeting or.. [Selina Samuels] You used to, I think you used to, you blocked it out at the beginning of the
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year. year.
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Every seven weeks or something? For just a few days? [Mrs Samuels] I can't remember that. [Selina Samuels] Mummy drove up, it wasn't like they had the car driving them up or anything. And, so Mummy Every seven weeks or something? For just a few days? [Mrs Samuels] I can't remember that. [Selina Samuels] Mummy drove up, it wasn't like they had the car driving them up or anything. And, so Mummy
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drove the way, all, up and we used to just buy the groceries on the way up and put them in the back of the car, drove the way, all, up and we used to just buy the groceries on the way up and put them in the back of the car,
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and again, everyone at Smith's Lake pretty much knew, and again, everyone at Smith's Lake pretty much knew,
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and didn't make much of a deal about the whole thing. [laughter] That's my impression. [Mrs Samuels] I think that's right. There's that wonderful Australian thing, let's not make a fuss about any of this. So we were the ideal Governors for the change of time, I think. I'm putting myself as a Governor too! [Selina Samuels] Yes, yes I think you pretty much were. [Roslyn] And could I ask and didn't make much of a deal about the whole thing. [laughter] That's my impression. [Mrs Samuels] I think that's right. There's that wonderful Australian thing, let's not make a fuss about any of this. So we were the ideal Governors for the change of time, I think. I'm putting myself as a Governor too! [Selina Samuels] Yes, yes I think you pretty much were. [Roslyn] And could I ask
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what was the address in Bronte that you lived at? [Mrs Samuels] I can't remember. [Selina Samuels] 38 Evans Street. [Roslyn] 38 Evans Street. [Mrs Samuels] That's right darling, you're good. [Roslyn] Selina what was the address in Bronte that you lived at? [Mrs Samuels] I can't remember. [Selina Samuels] 38 Evans Street. [Roslyn] 38 Evans Street. [Mrs Samuels] That's right darling, you're good. [Roslyn] Selina
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thank you very much for your contribution too, you've both been very gracious this afternoon. Thank you. [Selina Samuels] You're very welcome. thank you very much for your contribution too, you've both been very gracious this afternoon. Thank you. [Selina Samuels] You're very welcome.