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Ingrid McGaughey with Peter King on the 27th of August 2011 Ingrid McGaughey with Peter King on the 27th of August 2011
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Peter I'm intrigued, did you ever want to go back down south again after  Peter I'm intrigued, did you ever want to go back down south again after 
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Macquarie 1979? [Peter] Yes of course, I had, I was planning to have my 65th birthday down there Macquarie 1979? [Peter] Yes of course, I had, I was planning to have my 65th birthday down there
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when I was at Macquarie, I went down to Sandy Bay, and couldn't get the silly when I was at Macquarie, I went down to Sandy Bay, and couldn't get the silly
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primus to work, so I clambered over to Bauer Bay primus to work, so I clambered over to Bauer Bay
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that worked alright, and Bill the Senior RO went crook at me. that worked alright, and Bill the Senior RO went crook at me.
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He said, you changed your plans, so I said, well I'm a He said, you changed your plans, so I said, well I'm a
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letting you know anyway, so I stayed there a couple of nights, and, it was letting you know anyway, so I stayed there a couple of nights, and, it was
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a wonderful spot, and then for some unknown reason, the 2nd nig-, I got a wonderful spot, and then for some unknown reason, the 2nd nig-, I got
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edgy, I don't know why, I thought, I can't stay here on me on, so the next morning I edgy, I don't know why, I thought, I can't stay here on me on, so the next morning I
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cleaned up, packed up, clambered up the cliff, took our bags to the station, went up cleaned up, packed up, clambered up the cliff, took our bags to the station, went up
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the top, I collapsed with a pain in me tummy. Oh, I thought I can't lay here for the top, I collapsed with a pain in me tummy. Oh, I thought I can't lay here for
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all day, till next day,  for the others to find me, so I had a bit of chocolate, had a wee all day, till next day,  for the others to find me, so I had a bit of chocolate, had a wee
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and it eased, so I clambered up and staggered back to the station so I'd missed out and it eased, so I clambered up and staggered back to the station so I'd missed out
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on the lunch and the doc checked. Silly me, ah uh he forgot to check me, he said me- [Ingrid] So he on the lunch and the doc checked. Silly me, ah uh he forgot to check me, he said me- [Ingrid] So he
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So you went, you went to see the doctor because you're concerned about the pain? [Peter] eh yeah, I thoug-   So you went, you went to see the doctor because you're concerned about the pain? [Peter] eh yeah, I thoug-  
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felt very gassy felt very gassy
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and then I shouldn't have gone. Silly billy me. And he said, you won't be and then I shouldn't have gone. Silly billy me. And he said, you won't be
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allowed down again 'cos you have passed a kidney stone. I should have kept my mouth allowed down again 'cos you have passed a kidney stone. I should have kept my mouth
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shut.  But I did the right thing so when I got back, the SMO, forgotten who he was now... shut.  But I did the right thing so when I got back, the SMO, forgotten who he was now...
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?inaudible? checked me out and he said, we're sorry Peter, you can't go down again. ?inaudible? checked me out and he said, we're sorry Peter, you can't go down again.
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I quite understood because he says it was I quite understood because he says it was
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a major operation if they had to operate down there, so I quite understood but I was a major operation if they had to operate down there, so I quite understood but I was
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really upset. I had plans to go back to England to see the family, I had to scrub that really upset. I had plans to go back to England to see the family, I had to scrub that
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so the money I had saved from so the money I had saved from
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Macquarie, I bought a small car and started looking for work and it upset all me Macquarie, I bought a small car and started looking for work and it upset all me
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plans. I'd been dying, I wanted to get back to Mawson. I planned to have me 65th birthday  plans. I'd been dying, I wanted to get back to Mawson. I planned to have me 65th birthday 
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there. The main thing was, I was alright, and I didn't have trouble with my there. The main thing was, I was alright, and I didn't have trouble with my
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gall bladder till 1985 when I was in Tassie and I had an operation gall bladder till 1985 when I was in Tassie and I had an operation
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in Launceston, so it didn't give me any ?inaudible? in Launceston, so it didn't give me any ?inaudible?
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for a few years. [Ingrid] So when you came back to Australia after Mawson '79, what sort of for a few years. [Ingrid] So when you came back to Australia after Mawson '79, what sort of
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path did your life take after that? [Peter] When I came back from Mawson?  [IM] No, from Macquarie Island. [Peter] I went home path did your life take after that? [Peter] When I came back from Mawson?  [IM] No, from Macquarie Island. [Peter] I went home
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to see the family, which was good, see me brother and me mother. Mother, sister and  to see the family, which was good, see me brother and me mother. Mother, sister and 
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brother and I had a wander around.  Had a real enjoyable time. brother and I had a wander around.  Had a real enjoyable time.
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Then when I came back, silly idiots, I could- wanted a job. So I got a job at Then when I came back, silly idiots, I could- wanted a job. So I got a job at
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OTC OTC
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as a technician which I wasn't really qualified.  But anyway they sent me to Port Moresby to help as a technician which I wasn't really qualified.  But anyway they sent me to Port Moresby to help
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?inaudible? big building with about 12 big transmitters in. ?inaudible? big building with about 12 big transmitters in.
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Australia for the phones and telegraph and all the rest of it and I had to sit there Australia for the phones and telegraph and all the rest of it and I had to sit there
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all day and change frequency and I will ring the senior tech up all day and change frequency and I will ring the senior tech up
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anyway, ?inaudible? then I went a bit crook, I saw anyway, ?inaudible? then I went a bit crook, I saw
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the local doc. He took one look at me the local doc. He took one look at me
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and he said, Peter, you've had 2 and a half years down at Mawson and he said, Peter, you've had 2 and a half years down at Mawson
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the worst thing they could have done, was send you here. Oh, so he said,  you'll have to go home, anyway I was there the worst thing they could have done, was send you here. Oh, so he said,  you'll have to go home, anyway I was there
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they called me ?inaudible? get registered they called me ?inaudible? get registered
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for blood donation. And the next day they called me in a hurry and said, we can't store for blood donation. And the next day they called me in a hurry and said, we can't store
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blood for any length of time, we've got blood for any length of time, we've got
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a little coloured boy here, we need blood in a hurry, can you get in, a little coloured boy here, we need blood in a hurry, can you get in,
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so I got a taxi in. Actually gave blood the same day so I got a taxi in. Actually gave blood the same day
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to the person. The only time I've ever done that so at least I gave blood in the to the person. The only time I've ever done that so at least I gave blood in the
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short time I was there. I was only there few months. So then I came back to Adelaide. [Ingrid] What year was short time I was there. I was only there few months. So then I came back to Adelaide. [Ingrid] What year was
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this? [PK] Uh, 59. this? [PK] Uh, 59.
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And then I met. I was staying with Mrs Evans, Mum we called her. She had six of us and  And then I met. I was staying with Mrs Evans, Mum we called her. She had six of us and 
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she always had her she always had her
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friend over. Barbara, Barbara Kendall. And we got friendly in the end friend over. Barbara, Barbara Kendall. And we got friendly in the end
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got to know each other very well and we got married and we had a got to know each other very well and we got married and we had a
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a flat- two-room flat, share bath. And luckily we, I put me name down for a a flat- two-room flat, share bath. And luckily we, I put me name down for a
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a house. My sister had thought of coming out two years earlier, so I was top of  a house. My sister had thought of coming out two years earlier, so I was top of 
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the list.  So Barbara and I got a housing trust home, just in front of the list.  So Barbara and I got a housing trust home, just in front of
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the airport. Fulham, really wonderful. And we were married 60 years and when her the airport. Fulham, really wonderful. And we were married 60 years and when her
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father died, we built father died, we built
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a house in Rosstrevor, north part of Adelaide. Moved there then she got a kidney  a house in Rosstrevor, north part of Adelaide. Moved there then she got a kidney 
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 trouble and she was on dialysis for two or three years and she suddenly said,  trouble and she was on dialysis for two or three years and she suddenly said,
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I'd like to go down to ?inaudible? I'd like to go down to ?inaudible?
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Had a block of land down there, we used to go down there for a holiday had a caravan and had fun  Had a block of land down there, we used to go down there for a holiday had a caravan and had fun 
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So I was ?inaudible? I was working for the hearing aid government department So I was ?inaudible? I was working for the hearing aid government department
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I resigned me I resigned me
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po- position went down and nursed her and three years later she had passed away so of course then I po- position went down and nursed her and three years later she had passed away so of course then I
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couldn't stay out there I had to sell up and get back to Adelaide. The only work I could get that was couldn't stay out there I had to sell up and get back to Adelaide. The only work I could get that was
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part time security with Wormald. [Ingrid] So what year was this? [Peter] 74. part time security with Wormald. [Ingrid] So what year was this? [Peter] 74.
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And then I was getting really down and I suddenly I went to cope I think I told you this the other day And then I was getting really down and I suddenly I went to cope I think I told you this the other day
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?inaudible? plasticine, I played out, I made a little sledge and dogs and the  ?inaudible? plasticine, I played out, I made a little sledge and dogs and the 
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lady in charge said ?inaudible? and follow your heart so I lady in charge said ?inaudible? and follow your heart so I
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rang Doug Twigg, he was the ex radio officer, chief, he said, right you're not too old rang Doug Twigg, he was the ex radio officer, chief, he said, right you're not too old
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so he sent me the forms, within a fortnight I passed so he sent me the forms, within a fortnight I passed
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a medical and was accepted and then got sent down to Casey. a medical and was accepted and then got sent down to Casey.
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It was completely different of course, it wasn't Morse Code it was all radio It was completely different of course, it wasn't Morse Code it was all radio
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teletype, telephones, ?inaudible? oh everything, frozen meat, huge fridges. teletype, telephones, ?inaudible? oh everything, frozen meat, huge fridges.
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Just I couldn't believe it, all the food was wonderful we had, turkeys, Just I couldn't believe it, all the food was wonderful we had, turkeys,
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chickens. Those lobsters, and what's this, crayfish, ooh, chickens. Those lobsters, and what's this, crayfish, ooh,
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everything, we had it, it was absolutely great. [Ingrid] So it was Casey in 1977 you wintered again. [Peter] Yeah everything, we had it, it was absolutely great. [Ingrid] So it was Casey in 1977 you wintered again. [Peter] Yeah
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and the beauty was Jeff Wilson was organising, he had ice drill on Law Dome. So and the beauty was Jeff Wilson was organising, he had ice drill on Law Dome. So
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none of the other radio officers wanted to go, so I said, ooh, I'll go and had   none of the other radio officers wanted to go, so I said, ooh, I'll go and had  
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a ball so they put me in charge of the food so Doc and I made up a ball so they put me in charge of the food so Doc and I made up
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rations sorted all that out and I stacked them on the sledge in boxes and things in the rations sorted all that out and I stacked them on the sledge in boxes and things in the
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groups so I knew where everything was and we ended up on Law Dome and we we're there for 3 months groups so I knew where everything was and we ended up on Law Dome and we we're there for 3 months
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just before midwinter and we had caravans just before midwinter and we had caravans
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we were completely different to the dog trip. We had a gas cooker, we were completely different to the dog trip. We had a gas cooker,
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a bottle of gas in the porch, mmm, and  a bottle of gas in the porch, mmm, and 
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a diesel mechanic we had 2 diesel generators on sledges we brought 15 KVA and a diesel mechanic we had 2 diesel generators on sledges we brought 15 KVA and
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I think the other one was 10 or 12 and he put a shower in one of them and the other one we had I think the other one was 10 or 12 and he put a shower in one of them and the other one we had
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a bucket for a a bucket for a
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a toilet. So, we were really spoilt. And I used to make bread on the stove and Jeff used to  a toilet. So, we were really spoilt. And I used to make bread on the stove and Jeff used to 
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make pizzas. And I made apple pies. I had  make pizzas. And I made apple pies. I had 
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a ball and I couldn't help them much with a technical problem but I kept busy. Kept  a ball and I couldn't help them much with a technical problem but I kept busy. Kept 
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the caravan clean, looked after all the food, cleaned up, enjoyed meself and when the boys   the caravan clean, looked after all the food, cleaned up, enjoyed meself and when the boys  
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were busy I'd get a bowl of hot water and have were busy I'd get a bowl of hot water and have
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a sh-, a bath all over in the caravan rather than go out and have a cold, hot shower.  a sh-, a bath all over in the caravan rather than go out and have a cold, hot shower. 
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[Ingrid] So how many people went on this trip to Law Dome in ?79?. [Peter] 4. [Ingrid] 4. [Peter] There was Jeff and me [Ingrid] So how many people went on this trip to Law Dome in ?79?. [Peter] 4. [Ingrid] 4. [Peter] There was Jeff and me
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and and
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Egon was the diesel mechanic and Bob ?inaudible? was the scientist and they ran the   Egon was the diesel mechanic and Bob ?inaudible? was the scientist and they ran the  
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drill and Egon of course ran the generators and the Big D5 tractors. [Ingrid] So how  drill and Egon of course ran the generators and the Big D5 tractors. [Ingrid] So how 
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many D5 tractors were there? [Peter] We had 2. [Ingrid] So, 2 D5 tractors, 2   many D5 tractors were there? [Peter] We had 2. [Ingrid] So, 2 D5 tractors, 2  
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living vans. [Peter] Yeah, and the drill van, instrument van, they joined the 2 together the 2 diesel living vans. [Peter] Yeah, and the drill van, instrument van, they joined the 2 together the 2 diesel
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oh, and then we had 2 sledges of  oh, and then we had 2 sledges of 
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fuel drums, a couple of food, ah, and then we had  fuel drums, a couple of food, ah, and then we had 
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containers for the ice cores oh, it was a huge train, 2 trains. [Ingrid] And were there  containers for the ice cores oh, it was a huge train, 2 trains. [Ingrid] And were there 
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any depots out there already or, or did you take everything with you? [Peter] Oh, yes,  any depots out there already or, or did you take everything with you? [Peter] Oh, yes, 
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we had to take everything with us somet- yeah, there's we had to take everything with us somet- yeah, there's
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a special spares for the drill and we yeah, I used to ?inaudible? on the radio and they'd come up a special spares for the drill and we yeah, I used to ?inaudible? on the radio and they'd come up
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and on the weasels or something with spares for us.  [Ingrid] Mmm, so you mentioned that you're   and on the weasels or something with spares for us.  [Ingrid] Mmm, so you mentioned that you're  
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communicating with the base. [Peter] Hmm. [Ingrid] How were you communicating with them. [Peter] Ah, that was good,  communicating with the base. [Peter] Hmm. [Ingrid] How were you communicating with them. [Peter] Ah, that was good, 
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back to Morse Code, thank goodness. back to Morse Code, thank goodness.
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It was a little port-, it ran off batteries and it was good. It was only a  It was a little port-, it ran off batteries and it was good. It was only a 
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sometimes the coding they used them in the Flying Doctor Service in Australia that was sometimes the coding they used them in the Flying Doctor Service in Australia that was
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really good and you could run them at ?inaudible? if you needed to and we used really good and you could run them at ?inaudible? if you needed to and we used
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to use them on to use them on
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Morse and then we switched over to voice, RT and Jeff could talk to our Morse and then we switched over to voice, RT and Jeff could talk to our
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OIC OIC
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to plan or any problems. It was really good. [Ingrid] So why did you use Morse, why not just use just RT to plan or any problems. It was really good. [Ingrid] So why did you use Morse, why not just use just RT
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all the time? [Peter] Well, it's easier to send a all the time? [Peter] Well, it's easier to send a
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a message by Morse. It's, I don't like voice to send a message. You have to spell it all  a message by Morse. It's, I don't like voice to send a message. You have to spell it all 
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?phonetically?, especially figures and things whereas if you send it by Morse you get ?phonetically?, especially figures and things whereas if you send it by Morse you get
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each letter actually right and it's quicker too, I was up to 25 words a minute. each letter actually right and it's quicker too, I was up to 25 words a minute.
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still. [Ingrid] And how many scheds still. [Ingrid] And how many scheds
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a day did you used to have with the base? [Peter] Ah, they used to speak all the a day did you used to have with the base? [Peter] Ah, they used to speak all the
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time but we had time but we had
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a sched in the evenings, we'd send the weather in and report what we were doing and what we were  a sched in the evenings, we'd send the weather in and report what we were doing and what we were 
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going to do next day and any other problems. Oh, and I used to send cables from  going to do next day and any other problems. Oh, and I used to send cables from 
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the boys and they'd retype them at Casey and put them on the teletype to Sydney  the boys and they'd retype them at Casey and put them on the teletype to Sydney 
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I could send messages home to England from the tractor train. [Ingrid] Did you - [Peter] I did that from  I could send messages home to England from the tractor train. [Ingrid] Did you - [Peter] I did that from 
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the dog trip too by the way. We sent messages by Morse on the   the dog trip too by the way. We sent messages by Morse on the  
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battery set and they sent them through to  battery set and they sent them through to 
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England for me. [Ingrid] Did you have any special celebrations while you were out at Law Dome? England for me. [Ingrid] Did you have any special celebrations while you were out at Law Dome?
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[Peter] Oh, [Peter] Oh,
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?occasionally?, when, my birthday, I ?occasionally?, when, my birthday, I
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didn't, I had another trip in October which was my birthday, so I made up  didn't, I had another trip in October which was my birthday, so I made up 
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a box of about 60 loaves of a box of about 60 loaves of
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bread and we froze them and I said to cook, chef, Jack, I  bread and we froze them and I said to cook, chef, Jack, I 
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think I'll make a birthday cake, so he told me what to do so I made it I said, can you ice it? think I'll make a birthday cake, so he told me what to do so I made it I said, can you ice it?
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He said, no, you made it, you ice it. Told me what to do, so I iced it and hid it down He said, no, you made it, you ice it. Told me what to do, so I iced it and hid it down
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the bottom under the bread. So, October the  the bottom under the bread. So, October the 
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14th, the day before, on the sched I told them, there's  14th, the day before, on the sched I told them, there's 
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a birthday cake buried to celebrate my birthday and -[Ingrid] So, you weren't there but they celebrated it for you. a birthday cake buried to celebrate my birthday and -[Ingrid] So, you weren't there but they celebrated it for you.
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I'm glad I did because the boys at Casey made a special effort I'm glad I did because the boys at Casey made a special effort
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They called me pioneer Pete, they put me at a table, gave me a bowl of sweet sherry  They called me pioneer Pete, they put me at a table, gave me a bowl of sweet sherry 
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and Dieter gave me an oil painting of a  and Dieter gave me an oil painting of a 
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dog team at Mount Henderson. Oh, and they all sat up, the young ones all sat up   dog team at Mount Henderson. Oh, and they all sat up, the young ones all sat up  
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for- with me and they put the doc who was fairly elderly and the for- with me and they put the doc who was fairly elderly and the
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oldies were down the end and they really put it on for me.  oldies were down the end and they really put it on for me. 
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?inaudible? In fact, ay, I can't remember having one at Macquarie I must ?inaudible? In fact, ay, I can't remember having one at Macquarie I must
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of done but I can't remember Casey was the last par-, birthday party I remember. of done but I can't remember Casey was the last par-, birthday party I remember.
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And I got one coming up this year. [Ingrid] What date is your birthday? [Peter] 14th of October it's a And I got one coming up this year. [Ingrid] What date is your birthday? [Peter] 14th of October it's a
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Friday. [Ingrid] Well planned. [Ingrid] There's going to be about 10. There was originally there was going to be about 6.   Friday. [Ingrid] Well planned. [Ingrid] There's going to be about 10. There was originally there was going to be about 6.  
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Up to 10. I'll get Jane the Chaplain to represent all the staff of ?inaudible? I'll have to have Up to 10. I'll get Jane the Chaplain to represent all the staff of ?inaudible? I'll have to have
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somebody and Robin's me computer friend who's going to come and re-tune me trans-  somebody and Robin's me computer friend who's going to come and re-tune me trans- 
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TV. I found a mate's got FM radio TV. I found a mate's got FM radio
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on his TV, so I'm going to put that on there and I hope I can on his TV, so I'm going to put that on there and I hope I can
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record, I can't record a full program on the blasted radio but on the record, I can't record a full program on the blasted radio but on the
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on the video I can. [Ingrid] So when you were at on the video I can. [Ingrid] So when you were at
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Casey [Peter] Hmm [Ingrid] in 1977 what was your main job when you were on station Casey [Peter] Hmm [Ingrid] in 1977 what was your main job when you were on station
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[Peter] Oh, communications and you had to take your turn at weekend cook when cook was off [Peter] Oh, communications and you had to take your turn at weekend cook when cook was off
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and um, ausages of course and then we had to go and take the gash out. and um, ausages of course and then we had to go and take the gash out.
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And go and get, drag the sledge to the lake at the top and get the water and And go and get, drag the sledge to the lake at the top and get the water and
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oh and I had Susie, ?one lonely husky?. It was just crazy they said, I know oh and I had Susie, ?one lonely husky?. It was just crazy they said, I know
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at Casey they said, oh, she won't go for a  at Casey they said, oh, she won't go for a 
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walk with you, ?inaudible? you old goat. I said, don't be ridiculous.  walk with you, ?inaudible? you old goat. I said, don't be ridiculous. 
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As soon as the ship sailed I got a As soon as the ship sailed I got a
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a short bit of rope, put it round Susie, took her to the top of the ?inaudible? line a short bit of rope, put it round Susie, took her to the top of the ?inaudible? line
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let her off and I charged ahead and she followed me, she did that all the  let her off and I charged ahead and she followed me, she did that all the 
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year. So, nobody could have tried properly. And we used to go for a walk every day and if year. So, nobody could have tried properly. And we used to go for a walk every day and if
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I missed she'd come and sit outside the radio room and bark. How she knew where the hell I missed she'd come and sit outside the radio room and bark. How she knew where the hell
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I was I don't know because I used to go up inside, in the passage. I always used to first thing I was I don't know because I used to go up inside, in the passage. I always used to first thing
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in the morning I'd check her, make sure she had any water and dig the snow out if she was snowed in.  in the morning I'd check her, make sure she had any water and dig the snow out if she was snowed in. 
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And Jack and the cook and me were allowed only to  And Jack and the cook and me were allowed only to 
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feed her and we used to have to fight to save the lamb bones for her. feed her and we used to have to fight to save the lamb bones for her.
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The boys used to grab them but we used to grab them 1st for Susie if we could. [Ingrid] So why was there only   The boys used to grab them but we used to grab them 1st for Susie if we could. [Ingrid] So why was there only  
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one husky at Casey? [Peter] I don't one husky at Casey? [Peter] I don't
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really know but, I mean, there wasn't a sledging base you see. She was, really know but, I mean, there wasn't a sledging base you see. She was,
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I think there was 2 and 1 died. And I think there was a couple at Davis too. I think there was 2 and 1 died. And I think there was a couple at Davis too.
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But they gradually pha- phased them out. But while I was at Macquarie I had a   But they gradually pha- phased them out. But while I was at Macquarie I had a  
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a cable to say she'd died. a cable to say she'd died.
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So she's still ?inaudible?. It shows they didn't try to take her for a walk. She always came with me. So she's still ?inaudible?. It shows they didn't try to take her for a walk. She always came with me.
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She always came with me. And when I was out, Alan, one of the scientists used to take She always came with me. And when I was out, Alan, one of the scientists used to take
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her for a walk and he said, she wouldn't follow me, I've got to take a pocket full of her for a walk and he said, she wouldn't follow me, I've got to take a pocket full of
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bones and yet she followed me, strange. [Ingrid] Because you had quite bones and yet she followed me, strange. [Ingrid] Because you had quite
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a bit to do with the dogs at Hope Bay in 52/53 hadn't you? [Peter] Oh, yeah, I, we all used to help feeds, we had to  a bit to do with the dogs at Hope Bay in 52/53 hadn't you? [Peter] Oh, yeah, I, we all used to help feeds, we had to 
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kill the seals and cut them up and feed the dogs, I've  kill the seals and cut them up and feed the dogs, I've 
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always liked dogs ever since always liked dogs ever since
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a kid. And of course when I went to Mawson, I volunteered to help with them. It was a kid. And of course when I went to Mawson, I volunteered to help with them. It was
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surveyor and the ?inaudible? were the two most important people. The doc looked after their health and OIC  surveyor and the ?inaudible? were the two most important people. The doc looked after their health and OIC 
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looked after them but everybody had a go but I got really involved and I made all looked after them but everybody had a go but I got really involved and I made all
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the harnesses for the dog trip. It was the best part of it all. I don't see the sense of going   the harnesses for the dog trip. It was the best part of it all. I don't see the sense of going  
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down and staying at the station all the time. Some of the boys did that and down and staying at the station all the time. Some of the boys did that and
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wouldn't go out of the area. I didn't see any sense in that. Half the fun was going out. [Ingrid] Did you go anywhere wouldn't go out of the area. I didn't see any sense in that. Half the fun was going out. [Ingrid] Did you go anywhere
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else while you were at Casey? else while you were at Casey?
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Casey. Casey. I did. I did. Oh, Ulai went up, Casey. Casey. I did. I did. Oh, Ulai went up,
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another radio operator went up on the 2nd Law Dome near the end of the year another radio operator went up on the 2nd Law Dome near the end of the year
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anyway, after the October he asked to come back so I went up to have a 2nd period up anyway, after the October he asked to come back so I went up to have a 2nd period up
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there but anyway, I was with Alan, and we didn't get on quite so well. All right, but not like  there but anyway, I was with Alan, and we didn't get on quite so well. All right, but not like 
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Jeff and when I went up Jeff gave me a great big hug. He said thank goodness you've Jeff and when I went up Jeff gave me a great big hug. He said thank goodness you've
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come, he didn't explain but I had a feeling things had been a bit uncomfortable. come, he didn't explain but I had a feeling things had been a bit uncomfortable.
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Oh where else did we go. Oh we, I went out on the boat ?inaudible? while the doc had some Oh where else did we go. Oh we, I went out on the boat ?inaudible? while the doc had some
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rubber ducks we went down to Browning rubber ducks we went down to Browning
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Peninsula to check on the seals there was a few seals Peninsula to check on the seals there was a few seals
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elephant, that was fun. [Ingrid] Was there a hut on the Browning Peninsula? [Peter] Mmm? [Ingrid] Was there elephant, that was fun. [Ingrid] Was there a hut on the Browning Peninsula? [Peter] Mmm? [Ingrid] Was there
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a hut on the Browning Peninsula? [Peter] Er, I don't think so. a hut on the Browning Peninsula? [Peter] Er, I don't think so.
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Can't remember. [Ingrid Did you get across to Wilkes very often? [Peter] Oh yeah, I took Susie across a couple Can't remember. [Ingrid Did you get across to Wilkes very often? [Peter] Oh yeah, I took Susie across a couple
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of walks and then ha!, Alan, Jeff and Peter the carpenter had  of walks and then ha!, Alan, Jeff and Peter the carpenter had 
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they decided they were going to man haul and ah, they cut one of the big sledges  they decided they were going to man haul and ah, they cut one of the big sledges 
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down ?eight and a half? feet. And I was washing up one night and there was down ?eight and a half? feet. And I was washing up one night and there was
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something on the radio brought Barbara back to me and I was just about, I think I was something on the radio brought Barbara back to me and I was just about, I think I was
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crying a little bit and they noticed. Anyway, when they were down the carpenters shop they rang up  crying a little bit and they noticed. Anyway, when they were down the carpenters shop they rang up 
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and said, hey Peter come down and help us with and said, hey Peter come down and help us with
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this sledge they realised. So I went down and then when they did the this sledge they realised. So I went down and then when they did the
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trip they asked me to go with them to make sure. Thank goodness I did there was this 2   trip they asked me to go with them to make sure. Thank goodness I did there was this 2  
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things I was to act on, one to make sure the ventilator was clear because it got things I was to act on, one to make sure the ventilator was clear because it got
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carbon monoxide poisoning and always put your storm rope guys on but carbon monoxide poisoning and always put your storm rope guys on but
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it's ?common knowledge? always put them on, so we did and we were gone for about it's ?common knowledge? always put them on, so we did and we were gone for about
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2, 3 days I think. [Ingrid] Were you man-hauling? [Ingrid] Yeah and it was great. [Ingrid] With tents. [Peter] Hmm ?inaudible? 2, 3 days I think. [Ingrid] Were you man-hauling? [Ingrid] Yeah and it was great. [Ingrid] With tents. [Peter] Hmm ?inaudible?
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a tent, I think we must have had 2 tents. I can't remember. Anyway it was fun. And they made a  a tent, I think we must have had 2 tents. I can't remember. Anyway it was fun. And they made a 
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a real fuss of me. It was great to be asked. And they were 2 vital points a real fuss of me. It was great to be asked. And they were 2 vital points
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they didn't realise that till I told them. [Ingrid] When you back went back to Casey  they didn't realise that till I told them. [Ingrid] When you back went back to Casey 
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in 77 it was 20 years after Mawson. Had things substantially changed with in 77 it was 20 years after Mawson. Had things substantially changed with
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the radio operation side? [Peter] Yeah, because everything was teletype. [Ingrid] Your favourite.   the radio operation side? [Peter] Yeah, because everything was teletype. [Ingrid] Your favourite.  
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I didn't like it at all. If I could have typed properly it wouldn't have been any problems. And I said I had to  I didn't like it at all. If I could have typed properly it wouldn't have been any problems. And I said I had to 
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tape it and then  tape it and then 
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recheck it, so in 2 takes, where the others would tape it straight off. In fact recheck it, so in 2 takes, where the others would tape it straight off. In fact
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some of them could work Sydney to some of them could work Sydney to
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?inaudible? through, didn't even bother to make tapes. But we always made tapes ?inaudible? through, didn't even bother to make tapes. But we always made tapes
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because if the technicians dropped out you put because if the technicians dropped out you put
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the tape on one side and send when conditions were good again.  the tape on one side and send when conditions were good again. 
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Any good the phone calls were good of course. It was still fun. I still  Any good the phone calls were good of course. It was still fun. I still 
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find, didn't find much time to do a lot of find, didn't find much time to do a lot of
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reading and I always seemed to be really busy. If we got busy on the radio one of us reading and I always seemed to be really busy. If we got busy on the radio one of us
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would go up and help out.  I got in a mess one day. And Ulai came in, I had papers  would go up and help out.  I got in a mess one day. And Ulai came in, I had papers 
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tapes and papers all over the floor, he said, Peter, I'll come and give you a hand. So he stayed tapes and papers all over the floor, he said, Peter, I'll come and give you a hand. So he stayed
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a a
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few hours and got it all sorted. [Ingrid] Hmm. Peter we talked about Mawson, sorry,  few hours and got it all sorted. [Ingrid] Hmm. Peter we talked about Mawson, sorry, 
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Macquarie Island in 1979. When you came home from  Macquarie Island in 1979. When you came home from 
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Macquarie Island in 79 what happened with you then? Macquarie Island in 79 what happened with you then?
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Well I was in shambles wasn't I.  I'd, oh, I, I went into a little Well I was in shambles wasn't I.  I'd, oh, I, I went into a little
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?inaudible? it was near the hospital where I lost Barbara and they agreed at the ?inaudible? it was near the hospital where I lost Barbara and they agreed at the
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?inaudible? family in the back and their daughter was getting married and they ?inaudible? family in the back and their daughter was getting married and they
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John a friend of mine, land agent, looked after it for me.  And it John a friend of mine, land agent, looked after it for me.  And it
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was extra when I went back as it was when I left it. was extra when I went back as it was when I left it.
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I gave a month's notice, had a bit of a break. I got, I couldn't go,  I gave a month's notice, had a bit of a break. I got, I couldn't go, 
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?inaudible? home so I asked John, should I buy a car or pay the mortgage off. I only had about  ?inaudible? home so I asked John, should I buy a car or pay the mortgage off. I only had about 
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$5000 I think. So he said, pay the $5000 I think. So he said, pay the
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pay cash for your car because that ?inaudible? is pay cash for your car because that ?inaudible? is
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you've got your ah, mortgage through us which was  you've got your ah, mortgage through us which was 
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a building society, with low rates, it was unusually low. And he knows  a building society, with low rates, it was unusually low. And he knows 
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unemployed ?inaudible? would cover it, so I did. And I had to get unemployed ?inaudible? would cover it, so I did. And I had to get
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part time with Wormalds. Security ?inaudible? which I wasn't very keen on. We used to do parties, part time with Wormalds. Security ?inaudible? which I wasn't very keen on. We used to do parties,
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Christmas time parking at the big shows. And I ended up Christmas time parking at the big shows. And I ended up
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at a blooming oil depot down at Port Adelaide at a blooming oil depot down at Port Adelaide
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that was a ?unaudible? that was a ?unaudible?
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job all night long and you had to wander around every couple of hours. [Ingrid] So you were a security  job all night long and you had to wander around every couple of hours. [Ingrid] So you were a security 
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personnel [Peter] You had to check everything. [Ingrid] at the compound. [Peter] And you had to clean up personnel [Peter] You had to check everything. [Ingrid] at the compound. [Peter] And you had to clean up
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the messroom and wash all the dishes and things. Make the occasional ?inaudible? and keep the kids away too.  the messroom and wash all the dishes and things. Make the occasional ?inaudible? and keep the kids away too. 
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All you want is one spark and the whole place would have gone up.  It was right next to the buildings too, All you want is one spark and the whole place would have gone up.  It was right next to the buildings too,
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houses and things we  houses and things we 
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another job was out at Port Stanley where they were doubling the height of the  another job was out at Port Stanley where they were doubling the height of the 
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oil refinery you used to have to check the men in and out of the gate. Ooh, it was dreadful  oil refinery you used to have to check the men in and out of the gate. Ooh, it was dreadful 
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it wasn't very exciting but least it was it wasn't very exciting but least it was
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a job but yeah I wasn't getting very much and then, down in?inaudible? a job but yeah I wasn't getting very much and then, down in?inaudible?
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just said your exservicemen, you're entitled to pension at 61.  just said your exservicemen, you're entitled to pension at 61. 
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I recommend you go so, so they sent me round and within a fortnight they put me on the blooming  I recommend you go so, so they sent me round and within a fortnight they put me on the blooming 
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pension but I couldn't get the full car-, cover, because being pension but I couldn't get the full car-, cover, because being
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on intelligence I wasn't allowed in the air force to leave England into a ?war zone?. on intelligence I wasn't allowed in the air force to leave England into a ?war zone?.
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I did it and got overseas posting in the merchant navy.  I did it and got overseas posting in the merchant navy. 
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Didn't count so I just got the old age pension, but I was happy to have that, and at least be  Didn't count so I just got the old age pension, but I was happy to have that, and at least be 
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in one piece which is a lot more than in one piece which is a lot more than
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than I really needed. Prisoners of war and those that got sunk. than I really needed. Prisoners of war and those that got sunk.
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Very lucky, strange how you think about it I went Very lucky, strange how you think about it I went
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right through the war and never saw any flaming action. The other blokes I had a  right through the war and never saw any flaming action. The other blokes I had a 
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a bloke come to me, a young bloke he'd been sunk twice the previous 12 months, he used to come a bloke come to me, a young bloke he'd been sunk twice the previous 12 months, he used to come
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on watch with  on watch with 
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a bottle of gin or something. I used to have to take it off him. I can understand now.  a bottle of gin or something. I used to have to take it off him. I can understand now. 
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The strain and you know when they got sunk the ?inaudible? The strain and you know when they got sunk the ?inaudible?
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the shipping company stopped their pay and they could be the shipping company stopped their pay and they could be
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drifting in the blooming boats for a couple of  drifting in the blooming boats for a couple of 
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months. And no pay, I don't know how on earth their families got on. It was dreadful. P&O  months. And no pay, I don't know how on earth their families got on. It was dreadful. P&O 
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all the big companies were the worst. If it hadn't been for  all the big companies were the worst. If it hadn't been for 
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the seamen, England would have been sunk. They should have treated them  the seamen, England would have been sunk. They should have treated them 
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a lot better and after 60 years they suddenly sent me a lot better and after 60 years they suddenly sent me
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a lapel badge for your service in the merchant navy and I get one from Bletchley Park  a lapel badge for your service in the merchant navy and I get one from Bletchley Park 
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with the code breakers and blow me down ?inaudible? the Ministry with the code breakers and blow me down ?inaudible? the Ministry
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of Defence, I get a badge from them as well so I ended up with 3 badges after of Defence, I get a badge from them as well so I ended up with 3 badges after
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60 years, mmm. [Ingrid] So what did you do once you were retired. [Peter] What 60 years, mmm. [Ingrid] So what did you do once you were retired. [Peter] What
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did I do. Came to Tassie. [Ingrid] Why Tasmania? [Peter] I came to  did I do. Came to Tassie. [Ingrid] Why Tasmania? [Peter] I came to 
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my son had moved to ah, Tasmania and he got divorced and anyway he asked me over  my son had moved to ah, Tasmania and he got divorced and anyway he asked me over 
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for a holiday. And he was living in a  for a holiday. And he was living in a 
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caravan and he couldn't get his kiddies. He had a boy and a  caravan and he couldn't get his kiddies. He had a boy and a 
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girl for weekends. Anyway, he saw I was going downhill fast and he said girl for weekends. Anyway, he saw I was going downhill fast and he said
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why don't you come over here and we'll get a  why don't you come over here and we'll get a 
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house together. So I went home, thought about it. I was crying all the way back to the airport   house together. So I went home, thought about it. I was crying all the way back to the airport  
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in the car I was so taken and I talked with me minister David Hodges and me in the car I was so taken and I talked with me minister David Hodges and me
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doctor and some friends and they all thought it was doctor and some friends and they all thought it was
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a good idea. So I rang Vic and went back. a good idea. So I rang Vic and went back.
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Victor had a look around for houses and weekdays I flew back over and we chose a Victor had a look around for houses and weekdays I flew back over and we chose a
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house. [Ingrid] So you flew from Adelaide down to [Peter] Mmm, yeah and then about a month later [Ingrid] to Launceston or? [Peter] sold the house   house. [Ingrid] So you flew from Adelaide down to [Peter] Mmm, yeah and then about a month later [Ingrid] to Launceston or? [Peter] sold the house  
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ah, the unit packed up and moved  ah, the unit packed up and moved 
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over. I flew over and they sent all the stuff over by ah, ship. And the car over. I flew over and they sent all the stuff over by ah, ship. And the car
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Rosalee's son Ian drove me to Port Adelaide, and ah, sorry, drove me to the airport  Rosalee's son Ian drove me to Port Adelaide, and ah, sorry, drove me to the airport 
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and he drove and he drove
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the car to Port Adelaide and they put it on the ship and shipped it to Burnie and then when I got to the car to Port Adelaide and they put it on the ship and shipped it to Burnie and then when I got to
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Launceston, Barry, Victor's friend drove me down to Burnie and we picked it up there Launceston, Barry, Victor's friend drove me down to Burnie and we picked it up there
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wasn't wasn't
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a scratch on it and, and ?inaudible? settled into the house and  a scratch on it and, and ?inaudible? settled into the house and 
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blow me down after blow me down after
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12 months he got engaged and got married again and by that time I'd met 12 months he got engaged and got married again and by that time I'd met
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Charlotte so I decided Charlotte so I decided
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?inaudible? we got married. [Ingrid] How did you meet Charlotte? [Peter] Ah, well, I had me gall bladder  ?inaudible? we got married. [Ingrid] How did you meet Charlotte? [Peter] Ah, well, I had me gall bladder 
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operation 85 they had a operation 85 they had a
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a drip in me left arm and it made me arm ache so my doctor sent me to St Giles swimming  a drip in me left arm and it made me arm ache so my doctor sent me to St Giles swimming 
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pool. Exercises with the arthritic people and Pat running it said, Peter pool. Exercises with the arthritic people and Pat running it said, Peter
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would you like to take this nice English lady home. I usually take her and she lost her husband would you like to take this nice English lady home. I usually take her and she lost her husband
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6 months ago. So I said, of course I'll take her home. So I took her home. She asked me in for a  6 months ago. So I said, of course I'll take her home. So I took her home. She asked me in for a 
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cup of tea and Jock the dog was all over me. So I said, oh, I'll take him for a walk   cup of tea and Jock the dog was all over me. So I said, oh, I'll take him for a walk  
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and we were friends for life then and ah, then Charlotte had a cup of tea and I said  and we were friends for life then and ah, then Charlotte had a cup of tea and I said 
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how do you do your shopping? She said I stagger up the hill with 2 bags of shopping. I said oh, heck  how do you do your shopping? She said I stagger up the hill with 2 bags of shopping. I said oh, heck 
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I'll pick you up and take you down. So we did and then I had tea with and I asked her to  I'll pick you up and take you down. So we did and then I had tea with and I asked her to 
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my place for tea. my place for tea.
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And 6 months later we were married. We married at Anne's pla-, her daughter's And 6 months later we were married. We married at Anne's pla-, her daughter's
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home. The best thing I ever did. [Ingrid] What year was that? [Peter] 87. home. The best thing I ever did. [Ingrid] What year was that? [Peter] 87.
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August, 8th of the 8th, 87. [Ingrid] And you were very happy weren't you in this relationship? [Peter] Oh, very much so. August, 8th of the 8th, 87. [Ingrid] And you were very happy weren't you in this relationship? [Peter] Oh, very much so.
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Barbara and I were good but we weren't very experienced whereas ?inaudible? had 4 children. Barbara and I were good but we weren't very experienced whereas ?inaudible? had 4 children.
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Married another bloke with 4 others. So she ended up with 8. And she lost both of them and Married another bloke with 4 others. So she ended up with 8. And she lost both of them and
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I don't know we just really clicked it was I don't know we just really clicked it was
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a real deep and I nursed her for 5 years. I nursed Barbara for a real deep and I nursed her for 5 years. I nursed Barbara for
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a few years and I got the drift and the Queen  a few years and I got the drift and the Queen 
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Elizabeth Hospital Adelaide, got me, gave me a book with all her medications Elizabeth Hospital Adelaide, got me, gave me a book with all her medications
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tablets and things all written down. So with Charlotte I did the same thing. tablets and things all written down. So with Charlotte I did the same thing.
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I had a typewriter then so I typed it all out. And then when I had me computer then, I stuck it on me computer  I had a typewriter then so I typed it all out. And then when I had me computer then, I stuck it on me computer 
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and it helped me. It made it a lot easier and in fact when ?inaudible? and it helped me. It made it a lot easier and in fact when ?inaudible?
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at hospital the doctors got used to it and said, Peter we can't find what we want in  at hospital the doctors got used to it and said, Peter we can't find what we want in 
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the pile she had 3 books this thick, so she said where's your folder so I gave it and it the pile she had 3 books this thick, so she said where's your folder so I gave it and it
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was always up to date and they could flip through it and see where they were as to was always up to date and they could flip through it and see where they were as to
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still keep a check on mine now too, when I go into hospital, I take my copy still keep a check on mine now too, when I go into hospital, I take my copy
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or the nurses here always send the full details to me but when I used to go stay with  or the nurses here always send the full details to me but when I used to go stay with 
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Victor or I go to ?Edie's? in Burnie, always take it with me in case I have to go to hospital, Victor or I go to ?Edie's? in Burnie, always take it with me in case I have to go to hospital,
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see a doctor. [Ingrid] So how long have you see a doctor. [Ingrid] So how long have you
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been single for now? [Peter] We were, Charlotte and I were in the unit for 3 years and I lost been single for now? [Peter] We were, Charlotte and I were in the unit for 3 years and I lost
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year and I've been in  year and I've been in 
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this room, last May, 9 years last May. [Ingrid] So Charlotte died about 9, 10 years ago. [Peter] She was  this room, last May, 9 years last May. [Ingrid] So Charlotte died about 9, 10 years ago. [Peter] She was 
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2001, December the 17th, [Ingrid] 10 years [Peter] 12 noon exactly. [Ingrid] Are you happy here in  2001, December the 17th, [Ingrid] 10 years [Peter] 12 noon exactly. [Ingrid] Are you happy here in 
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Karingal? [Peter] Well, the family, after Charlotte died, I was sort of OK for about a month  Karingal? [Peter] Well, the family, after Charlotte died, I was sort of OK for about a month 
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then I got pneumonia. And I was in a mess. I can't remember then I got pneumonia. And I was in a mess. I can't remember
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I remember being dreadfully sick and bringing up. And it was burning it I remember being dreadfully sick and bringing up. And it was burning it
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was bringing up the acid from was bringing up the acid from
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me stomach and I can't think. I was in the unit then. And I can't think how the hell I got to the me stomach and I can't think. I was in the unit then. And I can't think how the hell I got to the
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emergency bell 'cos that was by the front door. I was being sick, and I managed, I must've done emergency bell 'cos that was by the front door. I was being sick, and I managed, I must've done
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because the nurses came and rang the ambulance and I was in Mercy Hospital for a fortnight and the because the nurses came and rang the ambulance and I was in Mercy Hospital for a fortnight and the
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family often say, I was in a mess, they had to, Pam wouldn't let me stay  family often say, I was in a mess, they had to, Pam wouldn't let me stay 
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in the unit. She was the director, she says, you have to come in Pete, so I came in in the unit. She was the director, she says, you have to come in Pete, so I came in
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and they, one lunch Jeff and Paul, Paul was the and they, one lunch Jeff and Paul, Paul was the
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Financial Officer, he's not here now. And Jeff moved me bed and TV  Financial Officer, he's not here now. And Jeff moved me bed and TV 
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and chair and and chair and
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a few things over and ?inaudible? and Victor came up the next day and moved the rest over. a few things over and ?inaudible? and Victor came up the next day and moved the rest over.
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And they said, they, after a while it was Karingal got me back on me feet again. I went  And they said, they, after a while it was Karingal got me back on me feet again. I went 
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downhill very very  downhill very very 
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fast. They had to use a wheelchair and they showered me and everything and they really fussed over me.  fast. They had to use a wheelchair and they showered me and everything and they really fussed over me. 
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But, it's not what they do, I was only thinking the other night,  But, it's not what they do, I was only thinking the other night, 
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it's the vibes they give out, the cleaners, kitchen staff, they're all the damn same. It's like  it's the vibes they give out, the cleaners, kitchen staff, they're all the damn same. It's like 
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the nurses at the Mercy and the porters when I was in there with Charlotte. The porters the nurses at the Mercy and the porters when I was in there with Charlotte. The porters
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 used to stop and cheer me up and the nurses were the same and the cleaners.  used to stop and cheer me up and the nurses were the same and the cleaners.
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And the kitchen girls up there. [Ingrid] Everyone says hello. [Peter] It's the atmosphere,  And the kitchen girls up there. [Ingrid] Everyone says hello. [Peter] It's the atmosphere, 
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it's not what they say, it's what they are. And that's why I'm frightened. I don't want to go to a flaming  it's not what they say, it's what they are. And that's why I'm frightened. I don't want to go to a flaming 
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hospital in Hobart. I told Dr Palmer that. I said I don't want to anywhere, Mercy or nowhere and if they hospital in Hobart. I told Dr Palmer that. I said I don't want to anywhere, Mercy or nowhere and if they
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can't fix me,  well just keep me comfortable. [Ingrid] Is there anything left that you want to can't fix me,  well just keep me comfortable. [Ingrid] Is there anything left that you want to
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achieve? [Peter] Oh, I'd love to go south again. I'd love to see how it's changed. But I wouldn't like to be  achieve? [Peter] Oh, I'd love to go south again. I'd love to see how it's changed. But I wouldn't like to be 
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down now. I think it's lost that close knit group. I think down now. I think it's lost that close knit group. I think
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they Anzacs in the First World War, the troops got very very close to each other and the they Anzacs in the First World War, the troops got very very close to each other and the
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same because they had same because they had
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a hard upbringing. Same in the Second World War and that's how they, Australians  a hard upbringing. Same in the Second World War and that's how they, Australians 
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survived the Burma Road, ?inaudible?  brought up rough.  survived the Burma Road, ?inaudible?  brought up rough. 
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They're used to it and they could cope with it. But the young people these days can't. They  lost They're used to it and they could cope with it. But the young people these days can't. They  lost
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with their TVs and the pizzas and their grogs and all the rest of it. If we ever   with their TVs and the pizzas and their grogs and all the rest of it. If we ever  
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have another big World War I hate to think what's going to happen. I hope to God we don't. have another big World War I hate to think what's going to happen. I hope to God we don't.
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They haven't got the stamina it's not only physical, but it's mental. They haven't got the stamina it's not only physical, but it's mental.
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You know what I mean. I was reading You know what I mean. I was reading
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a book only a while ago. Arthur he was an Australian, he was on the Perth and it sank a book only a while ago. Arthur he was an Australian, he was on the Perth and it sank
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he became a prisoner and he said it was only his upbringing he became a prisoner and he said it was only his upbringing
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and thinking positive got him through the Burma Railway. He said  and thinking positive got him through the Burma Railway. He said 
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a lot of the English went under pretty quickly but he said the Aussies from the a lot of the English went under pretty quickly but he said the Aussies from the
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country coped because they had the mental capacity. [Ingrid] I guess I have one country coped because they had the mental capacity. [Ingrid] I guess I have one
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final question for you. What is your most favourite memory of all the time? final question for you. What is your most favourite memory of all the time?
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My dog trip. That meant everything to me. I dreamt of it as a kid doing something like that. My dog trip. That meant everything to me. I dreamt of it as a kid doing something like that.
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[Ingrid] The dog trip at Mawson. [Peter] Yeah. [Ingrid] In 1957/58. [Peter] That's it, yeah, I liked it.  [Ingrid] The dog trip at Mawson. [Peter] Yeah. [Ingrid] In 1957/58. [Peter] That's it, yeah, I liked it. 
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I was saying to you, I think I wrote to your magazine and told them. I said, we've got I was saying to you, I think I wrote to your magazine and told them. I said, we've got
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to thank people in the head office because without them we wouldn't have to thank people in the head office because without them we wouldn't have
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?been able? do any of it. The same as the ships. The ships got us there. We owed them ?been able? do any of it. The same as the ships. The ships got us there. We owed them
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an awful lot. [Ingrid] All right Peter. That's a very good note to end on. [Peter] Mmm? [Ingrid] That's an awful lot. [Ingrid] All right Peter. That's a very good note to end on. [Peter] Mmm? [Ingrid] That's
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a very good note to end on. [Peter] I get homesick, that's the only trouble [Ingrid] For England? [Peter] I can't cope   a very good note to end on. [Peter] I get homesick, that's the only trouble [Ingrid] For England? [Peter] I can't cope  
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of course, an hour in time now and I'm exhausted [laughs] [Ingrid] [laughs] And you're a bit of a caramello chocolate fanatic as well. of course, an hour in time now and I'm exhausted [laughs] [Ingrid] [laughs] And you're a bit of a caramello chocolate fanatic as well.
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I hadn't realised that you know fascinating. I hadn't realised that you know fascinating.
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I ration meself to 2 little squares each evening.  I ration meself to 2 little squares each evening. 
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I couldn't Russian myself [laughs] no self-discipline. All right. I couldn't Russian myself [laughs] no self-discipline. All right.