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This is Roslyn [Shortner? Shookner?] and I'm speaking with Margaret Flanders, of Tirroan near Wallaville, which is an area near Bundaberg. This is Roslyn [Shortner? Shookner?] and I'm speaking with Margaret Flanders, of Tirroan near Wallaville, which is an area near Bundaberg.
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It is Tuesday afternoon, the 10th of March. Good afternoon, Margaret. Good afternoon. It is Tuesday afternoon, the 10th of March. Good afternoon, Margaret. Good afternoon.
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Margaret, just to commence this, um, short oral history, could you give me a little bit about your background as a child, where you grew up? Margaret, just to commence this, um, short oral history, could you give me a little bit about your background as a child, where you grew up?
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Um, yes, I - I've been - all my life I've lived in the Bundaberg district. Um, yes, I - I've been - all my life I've lived in the Bundaberg district.
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When I was 18 months old, I moved out to a rural property. When I was 18 months old, I moved out to a rural property.
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My parents weren't sugar cane farmers at that stage, but they were hobby farmers, and we lived right next door to the biggest, probably, cane property that was in the district My parents weren't sugar cane farmers at that stage, but they were hobby farmers, and we lived right next door to the biggest, probably, cane property that was in the district
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at that time. at that time.
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I lived on that property till I was 10 years old, and then we moved to Gin Gin, where my father decided he really did want to be a fair dinkum cane farmer, I lived on that property till I was 10 years old, and then we moved to Gin Gin, where my father decided he really did want to be a fair dinkum cane farmer,
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and I lived there until and I lived there until
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I was about 18 when I moved to Bundaberg, just for a short time, and, um, lived in the [town part?], and I married my husband, I was about 18 when I moved to Bundaberg, just for a short time, and, um, lived in the [town part?], and I married my husband,
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Moved back to Tirroan, near Gin Gin. So really, I actually only lived Moved back to Tirroan, near Gin Gin. So really, I actually only lived
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over the hill - on the other side of the hill from my husband, all my - all my young life and I never even knew he existed. So how did you meet? Um, we met through his - his sister. His sister was in my class at school, and he used to take my sister out - his sister out and over the hill - on the other side of the hill from my husband, all my - all my young life and I never even knew he existed. So how did you meet? Um, we met through his - his sister. His sister was in my class at school, and he used to take my sister out - his sister out and
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Take Me Out as well I guess. So when you you married a cane cane farmer. Was he a cane farmer when you married him? Yes he was he he he'd worked for a little while as a mechanic in Gin Gin in a garage and he used to pedal his pushy and ride a scooter into work. But then he moved and and worked for a cane farmer next door and worked for one. Take Me Out as well I guess. So when you you married a cane cane farmer. Was he a cane farmer when you married him? Yes he was he he he'd worked for a little while as a mechanic in Gin Gin in a garage and he used to pedal his pushy and ride a scooter into work. But then he moved and and worked for a cane farmer next door and worked for one.
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far away. far away.
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And all the time, after finishing those jobs, he'd come back home And all the time, after finishing those jobs, he'd come back home
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And work with his father. So yes, umm he's been a cane farmer all his life. And work with his father. So yes, umm he's been a cane farmer all his life.
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In terms of property ownership, he's probably only been a cane farmer since the late 1970s. In terms of property ownership, he's probably only been a cane farmer since the late 1970s.
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So you worked with [direct farm] or you were - when you were first married before [from the former farm]? Yeah, and by the time we were married, he, um, owned a half share in the farm with his father. So, it had always been a family concern, and not only did - was it sort of a partnership between him and his father, legally, in terms of So you worked with [direct farm] or you were - when you were first married before [from the former farm]? Yeah, and by the time we were married, he, um, owned a half share in the farm with his father. So, it had always been a family concern, and not only did - was it sort of a partnership between him and his father, legally, in terms of
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Family ties and Family ties and
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a proper family business, like, family lived next door to each other and they did the work on the property. a proper family business, like, family lived next door to each other and they did the work on the property.
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So as a young bride, you moved into a house on the property? As a young bride, I actually lived in a caravan on the property at the back gate, and nobody could get into the property, really, in the house except to go past our caravan. So yeah, it was only there for about six or seven months, and, um, we moved into the old house that was on the property there. And his mother and father then moved to Gin Gin, but his father didn't retire until [since the words?] So as a young bride, you moved into a house on the property? As a young bride, I actually lived in a caravan on the property at the back gate, and nobody could get into the property, really, in the house except to go past our caravan. So yeah, it was only there for about six or seven months, and, um, we moved into the old house that was on the property there. And his mother and father then moved to Gin Gin, but his father didn't retire until [since the words?]
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And were you actively involved with the farm side? I was - I - when I And were you actively involved with the farm side? I was - I - when I
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- when I was married, I gave up working, because I used to work at the State Government insurance - when I was married, I gave up working, because I used to work at the State Government insurance
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, and so I didn't work anymore. It sort of was the - the sign of the times, I guess, that you didn't really feel [like a wife when you did your work?], but still, she worked on the farm. So yeah, I did, and I studied as well. So I had time to put into my studies. But it was very common for me to take a pile of books with and go and drive the tractor and - and when the I - I'd get to the end of the row or the end of the headland, I'd sit there and pull out a book or a magazine and just read until, you know, the , and so I didn't work anymore. It sort of was the - the sign of the times, I guess, that you didn't really feel [like a wife when you did your work?], but still, she worked on the farm. So yeah, I did, and I studied as well. So I had time to put into my studies. But it was very common for me to take a pile of books with and go and drive the tractor and - and when the I - I'd get to the end of the row or the end of the headland, I'd sit there and pull out a book or a magazine and just read until, you know, the
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winch cable and round up for the - the - the winch hose or something like that, you know, just to fill in the time. So yeah, I was. winch cable and round up for the - the - the winch hose or something like that, you know, just to fill in the time. So yeah, I was.
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We grew out of the crops as well as cane at various times, so I had a very active part We grew out of the crops as well as cane at various times, so I had a very active part
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And you said study. What prompted you to study? I mean, you were on a cane farm, reasonably secure future? Yeah, I - I'd started the study. I'd gone down to the University of Queensland and started my study. And I'd, I'd done six months full time, come back to work at the State Government Insurance Office, and was still studying then. So when I married, while I gave up work, I didn't give up studies because I thought, well, I really need to get this finished. And so yeah, I just did one or two subjects And you said study. What prompted you to study? I mean, you were on a cane farm, reasonably secure future? Yeah, I - I'd started the study. I'd gone down to the University of Queensland and started my study. And I'd, I'd done six months full time, come back to work at the State Government Insurance Office, and was still studying then. So when I married, while I gave up work, I didn't give up studies because I thought, well, I really need to get this finished. And so yeah, I just did one or two subjects
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as I could, as I could,
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, you know, cope with that and , you know, cope with that and
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And was that with any sort of career prospects in mind, or just to, "I must get this thing"? Yeah, I think I wanted to be an accountant. I wanted to look beyond the farm. But as - as the study rolled on and the babies came, I realised that I couldn't be a full-time accountant and a cane farmer's wife and - and a mother at the same time. So yeah, something gave and so the - the prospect of being And was that with any sort of career prospects in mind, or just to, "I must get this thing"? Yeah, I think I wanted to be an accountant. I wanted to look beyond the farm. But as - as the study rolled on and the babies came, I realised that I couldn't be a full-time accountant and a cane farmer's wife and - and a mother at the same time. So yeah, something gave and so the - the prospect of being
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Was it hard starting out as a young married couple, or was the security of working on the rental property was enough to get that added Was it hard starting out as a young married couple, or was the security of working on the rental property was enough to get that added
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It was - it was - yeah. It was a very solid experience, I think. We did have family to call on all the time. It was - it was - yeah. It was a very solid experience, I think. We did have family to call on all the time.
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They were always there for us and - and having Gavin's father come out every day and - and be on the farm all the time, like, he was there. He would always have lunch with us every day. And so, you know, we had that sort of stability. I didn't look after the accounts at that stage. So - and even though I had an accounting background They were always there for us and - and having Gavin's father come out every day and - and be on the farm all the time, like, he was there. He would always have lunch with us every day. And so, you know, we had that sort of stability. I didn't look after the accounts at that stage. So - and even though I had an accounting background
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, it wasn't right for me to come and step into that role as the accountant and the - you know, the organiser of the financial affairs when for so long they'd been taken care of by , it wasn't right for me to come and step into that role as the accountant and the - you know, the organiser of the financial affairs when for so long they'd been taken care of by
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And was the property a And was the property a
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family property in the sense that it went back a couple of generations? Yes, it did. family property in the sense that it went back a couple of generations? Yes, it did.
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Gavin bought his share of the farm off a cousin of his father's who he and his father had farmed together, and then the cousin had had a motor vehicle accident and was [confined?] to hospital, and eventually died in hospital. But yeah, and before they had the property at various times, certain parts of it were owned by grandparents and yeah, so it went right back. The property that we've got goes right back to the time they gave our Gavin bought his share of the farm off a cousin of his father's who he and his father had farmed together, and then the cousin had had a motor vehicle accident and was [confined?] to hospital, and eventually died in hospital. But yeah, and before they had the property at various times, certain parts of it were owned by grandparents and yeah, so it went right back. The property that we've got goes right back to the time they gave our
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freehold. freehold.
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[lease hold?] [lease hold?]
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Support. Support.
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original  original 
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paper and, you know, sussed out the signatures and all of that kind of stuff. So yeah, truly - yeah, quite paper and, you know, sussed out the signatures and all of that kind of stuff. So yeah, truly - yeah, quite
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You mentioned when the children start to arrive. How many children have you? I have 3 girls and the oldest one's now 17 and three years apart, so - there was no mathematics or accountants being involved there. You mentioned when the children start to arrive. How many children have you? I have 3 girls and the oldest one's now 17 and three years apart, so - there was no mathematics or accountants being involved there.
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Just [flat out?]. And did you find it hard, particularly with the first child? Just [flat out?]. And did you find it hard, particularly with the first child?
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wife and wife and
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cane farmer's wife or was there also support from the maternal side of the - of the families? cane farmer's wife or was there also support from the maternal side of the - of the families?
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Yeah, for us there was support, because there was a - a long time to the other set of grandchildren that were older. And so it was - it was a novelty again to have a young, you know, grandchild in the family. And yeah, Gavin's mom used to come out Yeah, for us there was support, because there was a - a long time to the other set of grandchildren that were older. And so it was - it was a novelty again to have a young, you know, grandchild in the family. And yeah, Gavin's mom used to come out
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two or three times a week just to play and - and - and take Helen home with her and, you know, do things like that with her. So yeah, it was having mum there. two or three times a week just to play and - and - and take Helen home with her and, you know, do things like that with her. So yeah, it was having mum there.
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And did the children, as they grew, get actively involved? And did the children, as they grew, get actively involved?
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Helen's the eldest, is more active on the farm than the others. The others would like to be a little bit more active, and I think their father would like them to be a little bit more active at home. But she's the one that's had a pony given to her when she was, you know, 5 or 6 years old and - and learned to ride the - the pony and then take that further Helen's the eldest, is more active on the farm than the others. The others would like to be a little bit more active, and I think their father would like them to be a little bit more active at home. But she's the one that's had a pony given to her when she was, you know, 5 or 6 years old and - and learned to ride the - the pony and then take that further
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and keep doing that now. So he depends on her. And I'm told at this age that I'm too valuable to get on a horse, so I've stopped doing that [laughs]. and keep doing that now. So he depends on her. And I'm told at this age that I'm too valuable to get on a horse, so I've stopped doing that [laughs].
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You mentioned cattle, so you have cattle as well? Yeah You mentioned cattle, so you have cattle as well? Yeah
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We've got some some property that - that Gavin bought just lately from his uncle, and that was the - the family concern as well, but his uncle did own that. So he bought that, and that's - that's sort of up behind our cane property. We've got some some property that - that Gavin bought just lately from his uncle, and that was the - the family concern as well, but his uncle did own that. So he bought that, and that's - that's sort of up behind our cane property.
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There are some cattle there.  And then we've got a partnership, that's again a family partnership, that leases land off a cousin. There are some cattle there.  And then we've got a partnership, that's again a family partnership, that leases land off a cousin.
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Sounds dreadful, doesn't, all the family property? How complicated it gets? But yeah, there's some cattle that run on there. Sounds dreadful, doesn't, all the family property? How complicated it gets? But yeah, there's some cattle that run on there.
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Any memories that are significantly outstanding happen? Any memories that are significantly outstanding happen?
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Hard times are probably the most outstanding memories. When - when we first started to grow other crops, I think, was something that was really exciting for Hard times are probably the most outstanding memories. When - when we first started to grow other crops, I think, was something that was really exciting for
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- I mean, it wasn't exciting times. - I mean, it wasn't exciting times.
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the late 70s and early 80s [at the bottom from the sugar monk?]. So you grew the other crops out of necessity, not out of experimentation? No. We knew we had to diversify to kind of the late 70s and early 80s [at the bottom from the sugar monk?]. So you grew the other crops out of necessity, not out of experimentation? No. We knew we had to diversify to kind of
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get in some extra money. In fact, we were looking to put up a big - big farm share, because and we knew that we couldn't pay for it, you know, with anything else. So we get in some extra money. In fact, we were looking to put up a big - big farm share, because and we knew that we couldn't pay for it, you know, with anything else. So we
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grew grew
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two years crops of corn, and sold that just to finance to put up a - a farm share. But other times, other farmers in the district went into soybeans and tomatoes and we had a - tried [in the?] growing tomatoes. So I guess one of the - the most significant memories that I have of that is two years crops of corn, and sold that just to finance to put up a - a farm share. But other times, other farmers in the district went into soybeans and tomatoes and we had a - tried [in the?] growing tomatoes. So I guess one of the - the most significant memories that I have of that is
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there's a cyclone off the North Queensland coast and we knew we had to pick nearly all the crops just to get it off, because it had rained, like, 3 or 4 inches and I was waddling up to my knees nearly and in - in water, you know, pouring rain, picking tomatoes off the there's a cyclone off the North Queensland coast and we knew we had to pick nearly all the crops just to get it off, because it had rained, like, 3 or 4 inches and I was waddling up to my knees nearly and in - in water, you know, pouring rain, picking tomatoes off the
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, you know, the bushes, just to get them off , you know, the bushes, just to get them off
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before, you know, they all went - they all split and then go [?] and - and then yeah, grading tomatoes by hand before, you know, they all went - they all split and then go [?] and - and then yeah, grading tomatoes by hand
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that's a thing of the past. that's a thing of the past.
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Grading tomatoes and trying to learn law cases at the same time. Grading tomatoes and trying to learn law cases at the same time.
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Means that a few rotten tomatoes, I think, went into the cases. Yeah. You would be a fairly unusual in - in that you would share cane farming activities along with university studies? Means that a few rotten tomatoes, I think, went into the cases. Yeah. You would be a fairly unusual in - in that you would share cane farming activities along with university studies?
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Yeah, there are not many other ladies in the district that do that. Yeah, there are not many other ladies in the district that do that.
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Certainly none that I [know of?]. Certainly none that I [know of?].
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How did these hard times affect you personally? Here you were, a young mother with children to raise, times were tough? Try to get [new farm equipment?]  How did these hard times affect you personally? Here you were, a young mother with children to raise, times were tough? Try to get [new farm equipment?] 
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anything that I needed around the house, I virtually worked anything that I needed around the house, I virtually worked
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to get to get
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I - as my degree progressed, I took on the tutorials I - as my degree progressed, I took on the tutorials
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So they actually funded furniture for the kids and things like that that went into the house and clothes and Gavin's not being part of the club and Mum isn't there, you know, she goes on and she would buy them this and that. And you know when you look back on it now, how they got a lot of things that we couldn't. So they actually funded furniture for the kids and things like that that went into the house and clothes and Gavin's not being part of the club and Mum isn't there, you know, she goes on and she would buy them this and that. And you know when you look back on it now, how they got a lot of things that we couldn't.
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Now you would you would have been all you would have always had mechanical harvest. Now you would you would have been all you would have always had mechanical harvest.
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You're extending your your experience experiences as far as why or not as a farmer's wife. You're extending your your experience experiences as far as why or not as a farmer's wife.
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We actually went off as married. Somebody else cut out Colony, but it was always at that time below. We actually went off as married. Somebody else cut out Colony, but it was always at that time below.
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Children. Children.
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Um, Gavin used to card out. Um, Gavin used to card out.
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So you would be gone all day. So you would be gone all day.
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Every day of the week during the crash, we didn't have to be transported to, yeah, at that. At that time it was the being removed because the world will never close. Not not long before that. So when I was a girl. Every day of the week during the crash, we didn't have to be transported to, yeah, at that. At that time it was the being removed because the world will never close. Not not long before that. So when I was a girl.
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Different story. Different story.
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Yeah. And then we bought our own cane harvester and that turned out to be a successful and it was a risk and we took it and within three years we bought and paid off on the changes from cutting our cane and the company came. Yeah. And then we bought our own cane harvester and that turned out to be a successful and it was a risk and we took it and within three years we bought and paid off on the changes from cutting our cane and the company came.
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And how was how was that a risk paid off in terms of Bancroft was profitable thing that we didn't have the contract. No we do, we do now somebody comes in and completely crying and that's more profitable and for us and if we would have cut it ourselves and kept cutting. And how was how was that a risk paid off in terms of Bancroft was profitable thing that we didn't have the contract. No we do, we do now somebody comes in and completely crying and that's more profitable and for us and if we would have cut it ourselves and kept cutting.
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So right at the moment we have an unused machine in the shared for sale that I tell my husband will, you know, pay off some of them the head. So right at the moment we have an unused machine in the shared for sale that I tell my husband will, you know, pay off some of them the head.
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The weather down this way is not really conducive to cane growing. It will be done in this area. How have you been affected by long through designers, Cyclone depressions? When when Gavin Marvel first married there was they were just putting the channel through from this newly built mongering Dean. So that was really exciting because up until then. The weather down this way is not really conducive to cane growing. It will be done in this area. How have you been affected by long through designers, Cyclone depressions? When when Gavin Marvel first married there was they were just putting the channel through from this newly built mongering Dean. So that was really exciting because up until then.
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We would have to order out of dams and there were lots of parts of the farm that never got into. We would have to order out of dams and there were lots of parts of the farm that never got into.
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Are we at like quarter substantially and running after the following the overdraft? Are we at like quarter substantially and running after the following the overdraft?
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To put in underground pipes and electric motors when the channel comes through. To put in underground pipes and electric motors when the channel comes through.
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And since then, up until just recently, possibly haven't had to worry about. And since then, up until just recently, possibly haven't had to worry about.
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And uh, apart for now, your your life now, how would you compare it to the early days as a farmer's wife? And uh, apart for now, your your life now, how would you compare it to the early days as a farmer's wife?
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Well, because I work now full time, I'd say I probably. Well, because I work now full time, I'd say I probably.
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I wish I could keep closer to the farm and then I'll probably other stage now haven't finished the study, but I feel like I've I've wanted to spend more time there and less time working. I wish I could keep closer to the farm and then I'll probably other stage now haven't finished the study, but I feel like I've I've wanted to spend more time there and less time working.
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But yeah, there are lots of things that have changed. But yeah, there are lots of things that have changed.
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We tended to try and be self-sufficient in terms of our eating and growing extra things for ourselves. We tended to try and be self-sufficient in terms of our eating and growing extra things for ourselves.
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That we don't do now and on this side days when I could look at the plate and say, yes, we grew the peas and potatoes, the pumpkin and and the beef and the plate, yeah, maybe one or two things. That we don't do now and on this side days when I could look at the plate and say, yes, we grew the peas and potatoes, the pumpkin and and the beef and the plate, yeah, maybe one or two things.
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So there's there's things like. So there's there's things like.
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And I guess I missed the time. And I guess I missed the time.
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Yeah, because you have been through 24 hour day. Yeah, because you have been through 24 hour day.
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Both marriage and business relationship, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's become more business and less time seeing each other. So my part in taking over Garry's father's role now thinks he's actually stepping up. Both marriage and business relationship, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's become more business and less time seeing each other. So my part in taking over Garry's father's role now thinks he's actually stepping up.
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Too bad. Too bad.
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Parents. Parents.
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And so the other 1% just keeps coming out every day and sort of talking things over and reaching around and spraying this is praying that whatever it is. But yeah, I do the accounts now and I did the company accounts as well for the release manager. And so the other 1% just keeps coming out every day and sort of talking things over and reaching around and spraying this is praying that whatever it is. But yeah, I do the accounts now and I did the company accounts as well for the release manager.
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That's that's different to what it was. That's that's different to what it was.
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Wants to know, you would get your your monthly pay out of the partnership and we'll still keep that practice going, but yeah, we have the controller. Wants to know, you would get your your monthly pay out of the partnership and we'll still keep that practice going, but yeah, we have the controller.
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So that gives you more a sense of. So that gives you more a sense of.
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Always something nearby. Sleeping this month. Yeah, it's it's something that that we know. Always something nearby. Sleeping this month. Yeah, it's it's something that that we know.
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Based on past history, the farm can support, so we keep that practice going. Based on past history, the farm can support, so we keep that practice going.
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That that's probably a bit of stability that we've kept here from you and your three girls. What are their attitudes? That that's probably a bit of stability that we've kept here from you and your three girls. What are their attitudes?
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Continue the tradition of farm life. I do. They are interested in the land. Continue the tradition of farm life. I do. They are interested in the land.
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And while we, the younger two, don't take so much of an active interest, if we do cows say once a month or something like that. And while we, the younger two, don't take so much of an active interest, if we do cows say once a month or something like that.
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They'll get on their bikes and they'll go down because they want to have a look at the cows. So they want to go and play in the water or they they still want to get out there and do something, you know, they'll still go and wind up an electric fence with their father or something like that. So yeah, I think that because the the farm is so extremely. They'll get on their bikes and they'll go down because they want to have a look at the cows. So they want to go and play in the water or they they still want to get out there and do something, you know, they'll still go and wind up an electric fence with their father or something like that. So yeah, I think that because the the farm is so extremely.
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Origin. Origin.
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Past and present. It will still be something you'll want to keep the girls as they get older. Past and present. It will still be something you'll want to keep the girls as they get older.
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I suppose it didn't. We don't know what their aspirations really are. I suppose it didn't. We don't know what their aspirations really are.
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It would be nice to be able to say, well you know, 1/3 of this is actually yours and you can buy it from us and pass it on to the next generation. It would be nice to be able to say, well you know, 1/3 of this is actually yours and you can buy it from us and pass it on to the next generation.
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You you spoke about studying and and now you're working full time. You you spoke about studying and and now you're working full time.
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OK. OK.
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As a lecturer at the local university, specialized would that be? As a lecturer at the local university, specialized would that be?
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Usually you'd have to have a lot of support from your husband. Usually you'd have to have a lot of support from your husband.
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In the beginning, he wasn't so supportive. I mean, I have a lot in common with a lot of ladies that have come to study and. In the beginning, he wasn't so supportive. I mean, I have a lot in common with a lot of ladies that have come to study and.
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Their husband says they he doesn't understand. Their husband says they he doesn't understand.
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And and the times when given sort of looked at me and said. And and the times when given sort of looked at me and said.
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Yeah, put that he think books away. Yeah, put that he think books away.
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So yeah, in the beginning he was a little bit understanding, but as as times rolled on and saw that I was serious about getting it finished, the degree and that it did lead to a place of employment. So yeah, in the beginning he was a little bit understanding, but as as times rolled on and saw that I was serious about getting it finished, the degree and that it did lead to a place of employment.
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That was very necessary money for. That was very necessary money for.
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He's comfortable, appreciate, you know, just the input that I do have. He's comfortable, appreciate, you know, just the input that I do have.
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And getting down to the practical side of sugar cane farming, it's not exactly the cleanest crew profession in the world you must have. And getting down to the practical side of sugar cane farming, it's not exactly the cleanest crew profession in the world you must have.
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So pretty horrified at some of the. So pretty horrified at some of the.
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Ohh yeah very good. Ohh yeah very good.
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The burn off, the burn off stuff is quite OK. It was the grease and the black from the harvester and the times when Gavin would come home and they'll say see these clothes nice and clean and you go, well, I've just been under the harvester, so they'll kind of dirt in there and and grease and black trash and you know all of that, that you appreciate the times when it's not hard, it's time. The burn off, the burn off stuff is quite OK. It was the grease and the black from the harvester and the times when Gavin would come home and they'll say see these clothes nice and clean and you go, well, I've just been under the harvester, so they'll kind of dirt in there and and grease and black trash and you know all of that, that you appreciate the times when it's not hard, it's time.
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And you have the cayenne bloodlust, the cane times. You came home virtually absolute window so. And you have the cayenne bloodlust, the cane times. You came home virtually absolute window so.
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It does it out of place. It does it out of place.
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Next to our house we came near 10 foot from the side of the garden. I'm sorry. So every crushing when they cut that cane, I stand out there to protect the trees in the garden, lest the harvest that come and they do. They used to back the harvester into the trees in the garden. Next to our house we came near 10 foot from the side of the garden. I'm sorry. So every crushing when they cut that cane, I stand out there to protect the trees in the garden, lest the harvest that come and they do. They used to back the harvester into the trees in the garden.
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And they run the the, the bin in the trailer up beside the shipping. And I would then be out there that afternoon scratching the trash off the lawn because he did fly all across the lawn as well. So it was exciting and the burn offs were really exciting. They're they're the exciting times for us. And they run the the, the bin in the trailer up beside the shipping. And I would then be out there that afternoon scratching the trash off the lawn because he did fly all across the lawn as well. So it was exciting and the burn offs were really exciting. They're they're the exciting times for us.
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Standard practice every year for you to stand out at the start of the crush to go to the first boom. Standard practice every year for you to stand out at the start of the crush to go to the first boom.
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And the last book of the season and also to take a photo of the 1st dinner cane that was cut on your property. And the last book of the season and also to take a photo of the 1st dinner cane that was cut on your property.
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That's that's the tradition that still still stands. That's that's the tradition that still still stands.
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Been making the headband. You're on the river, are you? No, the headline is just the thing that we call the space between the road and the pain blocks or the house and the cane block. Yeah, so all the enterprising farmers till the headland electrodes, you have to distance. Been making the headband. You're on the river, are you? No, the headline is just the thing that we call the space between the road and the pain blocks or the house and the cane block. Yeah, so all the enterprising farmers till the headland electrodes, you have to distance.
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Now I do know. Now I do know.
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From other backgrounds, you just recently built a new home. Did that make life interesting? And trying to do that while you're carrying on the farm and working that, that was. From other backgrounds, you just recently built a new home. Did that make life interesting? And trying to do that while you're carrying on the farm and working that, that was.
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An enterprise that I don't think we could ever do again in life. We. An enterprise that I don't think we could ever do again in life. We.
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Pulled down the farmhouse that governor moved into, the one that he was born into. So he was sort of pulling down the house that he lived in for 42 years. Pulled down the farmhouse that governor moved into, the one that he was born into. So he was sort of pulling down the house that he lived in for 42 years.
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And we put in your half on the exact spot because we locked the location where we live. We had a garden established there. We virtually built the house in the garden. So when the house was built because he said, oh, this house looks like it's been here for years and years. And we said yes, it has virtually. So yeah, that was something that we couldn't have done unless it was strange like it did with someone before last. And we put in your half on the exact spot because we locked the location where we live. We had a garden established there. We virtually built the house in the garden. So when the house was built because he said, oh, this house looks like it's been here for years and years. And we said yes, it has virtually. So yeah, that was something that we couldn't have done unless it was strange like it did with someone before last.
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Because of that, right? Because of that, right?
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Libra. Libra.
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So the rain convented him from going out farming. Yes, yeah. He didn't have to irrigate and Ronald set up pumps and water. So the rain convented him from going out farming. Yes, yeah. He didn't have to irrigate and Ronald set up pumps and water.
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Experiment time and he levelled off the the site and we cleared the site. We put the old tanks down down in the paddock and people would come past me and say, ohh, there's some old tanks down there. We have loads and sure enough we got rid of a lot of our things, just like putting them out where people could see them. Yeah, so you didn't all end up on the screen. Experiment time and he levelled off the the site and we cleared the site. We put the old tanks down down in the paddock and people would come past me and say, ohh, there's some old tanks down there. We have loads and sure enough we got rid of a lot of our things, just like putting them out where people could see them. Yeah, so you didn't all end up on the screen.
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And Warville? It's a very small community by comparison, say Bundaberg. And Warville? It's a very small community by comparison, say Bundaberg.
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Waterfalls about 7 kilometres away from your area South. Waterfalls about 7 kilometres away from your area South.
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And we're about the same distance from changing as well. Well, well smaller than changing but lot of all sort of exist because the old sugar mill is and it's on the river and the highway goes through part of. So yeah it is quite it has a card and a general store for fertilizer different. So I take it you don't see no, no we actually do it more towards change because it has good offer. And we're about the same distance from changing as well. Well, well smaller than changing but lot of all sort of exist because the old sugar mill is and it's on the river and the highway goes through part of. So yeah it is quite it has a card and a general store for fertilizer different. So I take it you don't see no, no we actually do it more towards change because it has good offer.
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Listening to you talk, it sounds like you. You wouldn't have chosen much different life. No, I I like. Listening to you talk, it sounds like you. You wouldn't have chosen much different life. No, I I like.
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And in fact, when I went to Brisbane, when I was a girl, I was standing on the street. Not on the street but beside the street. It sniffed the air and I knew that I wasn't at home because the air smelled. Diesel and petrol queues are not sugar cane and. And in fact, when I went to Brisbane, when I was a girl, I was standing on the street. Not on the street but beside the street. It sniffed the air and I knew that I wasn't at home because the air smelled. Diesel and petrol queues are not sugar cane and.
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No offense because. No offense because.
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I offered to my husband that. I offered to my husband that.
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Sugar cane smells. Ohh, it does not. And I said, well, that's because you walk around it all day. So when we when it's really in the late afternoon, we'll be out of the morning. Sugar cane smells. Ohh, it does not. And I said, well, that's because you walk around it all day. So when we when it's really in the late afternoon, we'll be out of the morning.
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You say no, you can smell the stalk and sugar and that's where it's going. You say no, you can smell the stalk and sugar and that's where it's going.
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That obviously the selling always. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring it in right there and feel like home comfortable. That obviously the selling always. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring it in right there and feel like home comfortable.
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Well, thank you very much for your time. Well, thank you very much for your time.
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And let's make this. And let's make this.