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Monday the 4th of November 1991. This is Monday the 4th of November 1991. This is
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Carmella Pelligra and Sister Gabriel are at the home of Mrs. Rosie Cavallo at 198 Macquarie Road, Greystanes. Carmella Pelligra and Sister Gabriel are at the home of Mrs. Rosie Cavallo at 198 Macquarie Road, Greystanes.
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Rosie and her family first arrived in Sydney on the 29th of July 1935. Rosie and her family first arrived in Sydney on the 29th of July 1935.
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Mother and her brothers and sisters had travelled from Salerno, near Naples. Mother and her brothers and sisters had travelled from Salerno, near Naples.
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To join the father, who had already been in Bundaberg for 9 years prior to their arrival. To join the father, who had already been in Bundaberg for 9 years prior to their arrival.
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After her marriage, in a little village near Rockhampton, Rosie and her family moved to her cousins place at Eastwood. After her marriage, in a little village near Rockhampton, Rosie and her family moved to her cousins place at Eastwood.
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In 1952, the family then came to live in the original house on this property in Greystanes. Now Rosie is kindly going to tell us something of her story. Thank you. In 1952, the family then came to live in the original house on this property in Greystanes. Now Rosie is kindly going to tell us something of her story. Thank you.
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Now, Rosie, you might begin by just telling us something of your family and your life back home and where you were born. Now, Rosie, you might begin by just telling us something of your family and your life back home and where you were born.
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? I was born in Castle Norwegian ? ? I was born in Castle Norwegian ?
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When my father got married, 12 months after he went in America. When my father got married, 12 months after he went in America.
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And I was 9 months old. And I was 9 months old.
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And after two years, he came back in Italy. And after two years, he came back in Italy.
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And when he come back in Italy, after 12 months he want to go back in America. And when he come back in Italy, after 12 months he want to go back in America.
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My sister born after then. My sister born after then.
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And left my sister 6 months old, and he went in Argentina for 3 years. And left my sister 6 months old, and he went in Argentina for 3 years.
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He came back home after 3 years. He came back home after 3 years.
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And when he got back home, he wanted to go Australia. And when he got back home, he wanted to go Australia.
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because he couldn't go back in Argentina. because he couldn't go back in Argentina.
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And he didn't like to stay home. ?Wonderful? Gonna run to look for more money. It was hard trying to get enough. It was very hard And he didn't like to stay home. ?Wonderful? Gonna run to look for more money. It was hard trying to get enough. It was very hard
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And my mother left the home with the 3 children. And my mother left the home with the 3 children.
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And the children we all young. And the children we all young.
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And then when my father arrived in Australia, didn't find any work. And then when my father arrived in Australia, didn't find any work.
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And we had tried to work hard.  My mother work very hard And we had tried to work hard.  My mother work very hard
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To teach us how to work. To teach us how to work.
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Doesn't matter we was young, we had to do what we could. Doesn't matter we was young, we had to do what we could.
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Very, very hard, Umm, and did you have any schools in the area? We went, yeah, we went to school for one year. Very, very hard, Umm, and did you have any schools in the area? We went, yeah, we went to school for one year.
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But then my mother was worried because something had happened for the children to go to school. But then my mother was worried because something had happened for the children to go to school.
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Stay at home. Stay at home.
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About from 1:00 to 7:00 , 8:00 at night. About from 1:00 to 7:00 , 8:00 at night.
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We went there for 12 months at the school, you know? My father was in Australia. My mother was worried to leave the children at 1:00, wandering around in town. We went there for 12 months at the school, you know? My father was in Australia. My mother was worried to leave the children at 1:00, wandering around in town.
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And she took us with her. And she took us with her.
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And we learn how to work. And we learn how to work.
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And after that we get the private school, now at the time from 7:00 to 9:00. And after that we get the private school, now at the time from 7:00 to 9:00.
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It must have been a very long day for young children? Been a very long day, but we have to do. It must have been a very long day for young children? Been a very long day, but we have to do.
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And. And.
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?Today it's different? altogether. ?Today it's different? altogether.
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And they now go 13 years old, the normal school there was, who want to get the high schools they had to go to ?Salerno? . And they now go 13 years old, the normal school there was, who want to get the high schools they had to go to ?Salerno? .
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And how far away was from was ?Salerno? from your village? About the one and a half, one and a quarter by car? And how far away was from was ?Salerno? from your village? About the one and a half, one and a quarter by car?
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Now when your father was coming to Australia, was the custom? Now when your father was coming to Australia, was the custom?
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of their own ?accord?, or did the government help them? The government didn't help. of their own ?accord?, or did the government help them? The government didn't help.
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No, they come on their own accord? And how did they, how did they come to know about Australia? Do you? There, was like an agency. No, they come on their own accord? And how did they, how did they come to know about Australia? Do you? There, was like an agency.
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They open the ground in Australia who wanted to go there, was all bush here. They open the ground in Australia who wanted to go there, was all bush here.
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And then my father would go, my husband would go, they took to the fine and they had to pay the fare and I had to bring £50. And then my father would go, my husband would go, they took to the fine and they had to pay the fare and I had to bring £50.
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And more extra money, to guarantee, ?we did? guarantee they never find the work. And more extra money, to guarantee, ?we did? guarantee they never find the work.
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They got to live on another money. And when he came he arrived in Sydney? They got to live on another money. And when he came he arrived in Sydney?
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Straight to Bundaberg. Straight to Bundaberg.
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Yeah, dad went there and after ?the the? Yeah, dad went there and after ?the the?
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so, now they got a lot of machinery but then no.  Just different? Yes. so, now they got a lot of machinery but then no.  Just different? Yes.
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And when did you, and your mother, and the rest of the family come out? And when did you, and your mother, and the rest of the family come out?
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When we come out? we come out in 19, my father come in 1927 and we come in 1935. When we come out? we come out in 19, my father come in 1927 and we come in 1935.
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And when we come, we go straight to the Bundaberg. What was it like on the boat, travelling out? It was good, for me was good, for my mother, my sister wasn't too good because they used to get the sea sick. It was a change for you that from all the hard work. And when we come, we go straight to the Bundaberg. What was it like on the boat, travelling out? It was good, for me was good, for my mother, my sister wasn't too good because they used to get the sea sick. It was a change for you that from all the hard work.
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For a little while. For a little while.
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For a little while, all right. For a little while, all right.
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?Couldn't speak English? ?Couldn't speak English?
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We didn't know that people there was different than they no friend, not really friendly. We didn't know that people there was different than they no friend, not really friendly.
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Because. Because.
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Didn't like, you know, foreign. Didn't like, you know, foreign.
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Apparently there had been a lot of trouble. Apparently there had been a lot of trouble.
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A lot of ill feeling because there had been unemployment and then the people coming in getting the jobs. Is there something about that? A lot of ill feeling because there had been unemployment and then the people coming in getting the jobs. Is there something about that?
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Well, they tried to get the job, but if, when they had the job, they give a job. My husband come from, they used to go to Mackay, come to Sydney and after used to work with the water board. Well, they tried to get the job, but if, when they had the job, they give a job. My husband come from, they used to go to Mackay, come to Sydney and after used to work with the water board.
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?And wind upon the cane gonna cut again?. ?And wind upon the cane gonna cut again?.
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He go back there. He go back there.
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Each season, they get back and he go there for another 3-4 months, you know. Each season, they get back and he go there for another 3-4 months, you know.
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When you, you got married up there in Queensland? Yeah. When you, you got married up there in Queensland? Yeah.
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Tell us about when your family and when you move to Sydney? Tell us about when your family and when you move to Sydney?
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We move 1942. We move 1942.
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In Sydney. In Sydney.
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very sick. very sick.
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In the way that the sun was too hot for me, I couldn't stay and the doctor told my husband that this go change this place because, no good for me. In the way that the sun was too hot for me, I couldn't stay and the doctor told my husband that this go change this place because, no good for me.
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There Erick and I gonna finish up, no good. You know the head I used to get headache and everything. But the sun was too hot. There Erick and I gonna finish up, no good. You know the head I used to get headache and everything. But the sun was too hot.
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And, uh, And, uh,
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The climate was very different from back home in Italy? Yeh, yeh The climate was very different from back home in Italy? Yeh, yeh
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And whereabouts did you settle when you first came to Sydney? And whereabouts did you settle when you first came to Sydney?
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In Eastwood, and we stay there for 13 months, and after 13 months we went to Hollywood. In Eastwood, and we stay there for 13 months, and after 13 months we went to Hollywood.
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And we started to grow things by ourselves. Yeah. Hollywood, whereabouts is that? Lansvale. Out this way, right. And we started to grow things by ourselves. Yeah. Hollywood, whereabouts is that? Lansvale. Out this way, right.
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During the time you were with your cousin, you worked with them? Yeah, we worked with them, but nothing went good, everything too cheap. During the time you were with your cousin, you worked with them? Yeah, we worked with them, but nothing went good, everything too cheap.
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My plant ?flower? take them to the market. My plant ?flower? take them to the market.
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The market too cheap and work and work all the time and when. The market too cheap and work and work all the time and when.
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We had to pay the car. We have plenty of time and no money. Hmm, and then what did you do when you came out here to Hollywood? We had to pay the car. We have plenty of time and no money. Hmm, and then what did you do when you came out here to Hollywood?
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We plant the cabbage, plant the beans, plant the cauliflower. Like a market garden? We plant the cabbage, plant the beans, plant the cauliflower. Like a market garden?
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The flood come and ruin everything. The flood come and ruin everything.
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Twice in one year. Twice in one year.
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and one day and one day
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The flood was really really bad and right inside the house. The flood was really really bad and right inside the house.
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And my, my son said to me give me something to eat, and I said, don't, get out, I can't give you anything to eat because look at the water. He said, he was young, only 7. And my, my son said to me give me something to eat, and I said, don't, get out, I can't give you anything to eat because look at the water. He said, he was young, only 7.
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?The bed will eat mom because of ?who? we've got the tummy full.? ?The bed will eat mom because of ?who? we've got the tummy full.?
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And then it must have been very hard for you trying to get some money to bring up the family? And then it must have been very hard for you trying to get some money to bring up the family?
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We work hard, We tried to do the best we could, and the ?money?, my husband went to work in the factory. We work hard, We tried to do the best we could, and the ?money?, my husband went to work in the factory.
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Liverpool Liverpool
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He work over there at day time, at night time he's work in the factory. He work over there at day time, at night time he's work in the factory.
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?I am away? He work in the farm, got to sleep for a little while. ?I am away? He work in the farm, got to sleep for a little while.
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I used to help him take the pictures, packing the plant, pick em and everything. I used to help him take the pictures, packing the plant, pick em and everything.
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My children are small. They helped changed pipe, the water. My children are small. They helped changed pipe, the water.
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And helped him all the time. That was when they were small. They worked hard, My husband was a bit tough. Very bit hard with the family. And helped him all the time. That was when they were small. They worked hard, My husband was a bit tough. Very bit hard with the family.
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And the family regretted, Hmm, in the end. And how did you come to move here to Greystanes? We find a friend and my husband, find a friend. And he told him he want to find, buy the farm. And the family regretted, Hmm, in the end. And how did you come to move here to Greystanes? We find a friend and my husband, find a friend. And he told him he want to find, buy the farm.
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And my husband come and have a look at the farm, and my father lend the money. And my husband come and have a look at the farm, and my father lend the money.
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And lend us the money. And lend us the money.
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And we both, we start to work here. And we both, we start to work here.
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Grow tomatoes, beans. Grow tomatoes, beans.
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Peas, lettuce and everything. Peas, lettuce and everything.
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I go to the market. I go to the market.
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can't sell it, bring everything back. And what did you do with it? Give it to the cow. I had to throw it away. can't sell it, bring everything back. And what did you do with it? Give it to the cow. I had to throw it away.
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It's been happening to so many people, hasn't it? Such a hard job and hard work on the land. One day. It's been happening to so many people, hasn't it? Such a hard job and hard work on the land. One day.
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We had the beautiful fire chipping and my husband said I got to work. You try to pick some beans and I said yeah. We had the beautiful fire chipping and my husband said I got to work. You try to pick some beans and I said yeah.
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Then wash early in the morning. Then wash early in the morning.
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Clean up, and I passed up the big beans, and I'm picking them one day, Clean up, and I passed up the big beans, and I'm picking them one day,
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Bushel Bushel
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17 bushels? Yeh, was £20 to the bushel. I don't know if you know. Yeh that's 17 bushels? Yeh, was £20 to the bushel. I don't know if you know. Yeh that's
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17 bushel. The next 17 bushel. The next
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day was sent to the market. day was sent to the market.
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Only one bushel sale and all bring back. We had a bigger 3 down the back because it was. Only one bushel sale and all bring back. We had a bigger 3 down the back because it was.
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?70 acre grand? here. You know Amber, ?the old big bins beauty?. ?70 acre grand? here. You know Amber, ?the old big bins beauty?.
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We had to pay the carrier, with my husband going to work in lino factory. We had to pay the carrier, with my husband going to work in lino factory.
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And the money. And the money.
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From there. From there.
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I done the washing, all washing by hand. I done the washing, all washing by hand.
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Boiling in the wooden and copper. Boiling in the wooden and copper.
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And the. Boiling what? The copper with wood. Mmm. Um, did you always have a copper? And the. Boiling what? The copper with wood. Mmm. Um, did you always have a copper?
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kerosene ?Tina? first. Out in the backyard? No, we had a little shade, Yeah. And we watch me in there because for the line, we want something. kerosene ?Tina? first. Out in the backyard? No, we had a little shade, Yeah. And we watch me in there because for the line, we want something.
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So then your clothes lines were different then? Yeah. What was the clothesline like? So then your clothes lines were different then? Yeah. What was the clothesline like?
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A piece of wire, You know, pull a piece of wire. Between two posts? A piece of wire, You know, pull a piece of wire. Between two posts?
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That's the clothes line. And then also in those days, there were no electric irons. How did you iron your clothes? Oh, we had the. That's the clothes line. And then also in those days, there were no electric irons. How did you iron your clothes? Oh, we had the.
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Charcoal iron. Look at that ?nobody?. Charcoal iron. Look at that ?nobody?.
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That's like a little model of your charcoal iron. Yeah. Tell us how they worked please? That's like a little model of your charcoal iron. Yeah. Tell us how they worked please?
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We had the charcoal or put to the fire in there, two charcoal on top. In the iron, then you went and got the hot then we do the ironing. How long would one lot of charcoal last? Now not long. Oh half an hour? An hour? Um. Not very long. We had the charcoal or put to the fire in there, two charcoal on top. In the iron, then you went and got the hot then we do the ironing. How long would one lot of charcoal last? Now not long. Oh half an hour? An hour? Um. Not very long.
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And they had the hole on the side and the checker full air and that's how we did it. And they had the hole on the side and the checker full air and that's how we did it.
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How would that be the clothes? Yes, we wash them again [laughing]. How would that be the clothes? Yes, we wash them again [laughing].
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Just a little bit more work. And more work. Now when-.  We never used to stopped working Just a little bit more work. And more work. Now when-.  We never used to stopped working
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 10 hours a day or 8 hours a day. 24 hours a day. We didn't sleep very much.  10 hours a day or 8 hours a day. 24 hours a day. We didn't sleep very much.
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Now, Rose, perhaps you'll tell us something about your home here and when you first moved, what the house was like? Wood board and we had the wooden stove and the electric stove. Oh, that was a big change for you. Yeah, that was a big change but we use more the wooden stove because we couldn't pay the electric. And when yes. Were there many Now, Rose, perhaps you'll tell us something about your home here and when you first moved, what the house was like? Wood board and we had the wooden stove and the electric stove. Oh, that was a big change for you. Yeah, that was a big change but we use more the wooden stove because we couldn't pay the electric. And when yes. Were there many
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Neighbours around here? Neighbours around here?
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Time? No, not many. Time? No, not many.
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?Hello?. Yes. Do you remember who they were? Yeah, Mr. and Mrs. DeSoto and the family. ?Hello?. Yes. Do you remember who they were? Yeah, Mr. and Mrs. DeSoto and the family.
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That was the people who had the farm here, the market garden? yeah, over there. That was the people who had the farm here, the market garden? yeah, over there.
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And Mr and Mrs Buriero. And Mr and Mrs Buriero.
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Where did they live? Over here with the poultry farm. That was on the Greystanes Rd? Yeah. Where did they live? Over here with the poultry farm. That was on the Greystanes Rd? Yeah.
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We had the Mrs and Mr ?Sanoli? We had the Mrs and Mr ?Sanoli?
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Her sister-in-law. Her sister-in-law.
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Where were they?  Where were they? 
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Here, on Macquarie Road. Here, on Macquarie Road.
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We had another few but uh. We had another few but uh.
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?Emes?. ?Emes?.
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Did you have much to do with those, that part of the family, Carmela? Did you have much to do with those, that part of the family, Carmela?
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No, I didn't know my, um, my sister-in-law then. No. She's my um husband's sister. Just him only and I didn't know them at the time. So I lived more in the Girraween side of Holroyd. I wasn't um. I didn't know much about this area. No, I didn't know my, um, my sister-in-law then. No. She's my um husband's sister. Just him only and I didn't know them at the time. So I lived more in the Girraween side of Holroyd. I wasn't um. I didn't know much about this area.
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And then when did you build your new home, the one that you're in now? And then when did you build your new home, the one that you're in now?
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21 years ago. 21 years ago.
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It must have been a great day to be able to move into it. It must have been a great day to be able to move into it.
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That day was sad because 20 day after That day was sad because 20 day after
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My mother passed away. My mother passed away.
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Yeah. You had your mother here with you? I had my mother with me for 7 years. I had to look after, she was sick in bed. Yeah. You had your mother here with you? I had my mother with me for 7 years. I had to look after, she was sick in bed.
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And my father too. Um. But my father helped me a lot with my mum. Yeah. When my. And my father too. Um. But my father helped me a lot with my mum. Yeah. When my.
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Mother passed away. Mother passed away.
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My father took it very hard. My father took it very hard.
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Five months after he, passed away. Um. Was very Five months after he, passed away. Um. Was very
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Very hard for me then too, after they passed away. Very hard for me then too, after they passed away.
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And then And then
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During that time that you were here back in the 60s too. During that time that you were here back in the 60s too.
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That was the time when the currency change came in, wasn't it? The decimal currency. Yeah. Do you remember how that, if that had any effect on the people? Yeah, well, we had the bit of a confusion because it changed the money. We still now I say sometime, I say a pound or 10 shillings. $2.00 That was the time when the currency change came in, wasn't it? The decimal currency. Yeah. Do you remember how that, if that had any effect on the people? Yeah, well, we had the bit of a confusion because it changed the money. We still now I say sometime, I say a pound or 10 shillings. $2.00
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$2.00. Was the pound then $2.00. Was the pound then
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That was a bit of confusion. That was a bit of confusion.
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But after end of that time, I lost my brother-in-law too. But after end of that time, I lost my brother-in-law too.
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So ?I'm going? to 55. So ?I'm going? to 55.
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So, he passed away. Um, was that sickness or an accident? Yes. So, he passed away. Um, was that sickness or an accident? Yes.
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With. With.
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The best and the ?footing? day after he they didn't find out what that was. The best and the ?footing? day after he they didn't find out what that was.
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And he die, Then we'll come and look at your children as they were growing up, during this period And he die, Then we'll come and look at your children as they were growing up, during this period
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You would have found a difference in education. How did that compare? They used to go to school. Whereabouts? They used to go to Granville. You would have found a difference in education. How did that compare? They used to go to school. Whereabouts? They used to go to Granville.
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?My brother? Granville. How did they get there from here? By bus. ?My brother? Granville. How did they get there from here? By bus.
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The one, he didn't like a school and he left when he was 15. The one, he didn't like a school and he left when he was 15.
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And they start to work whether they make ?the payment? factory. the time. Tiles? And they start to work whether they make ?the payment? factory. the time. Tiles?
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Yeah, for their house and then and the brick and he went to, they went to work there. Yeah, for their house and then and the brick and he went to, they went to work there.
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?Wasn't his son? Merrylands Road, the building block there. Oh, yes, near the near the shopping center, the Jewels Place? That's right. ?Wasn't his son? Merrylands Road, the building block there. Oh, yes, near the near the shopping center, the Jewels Place? That's right.
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And he used to go to work there. And he used to go to work there.
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More. Beautiful homes going up there now. Hm? Beautiful homes going up there now. Yeah. Into Central Garden, which is a beautiful park. Central Garden, which is a beautiful park. Yes. Yeah. You would remember that as a brick workplace. Yeah, we used to remember that. The brick, plenty brick there. More. Beautiful homes going up there now. Hm? Beautiful homes going up there now. Yeah. Into Central Garden, which is a beautiful park. Central Garden, which is a beautiful park. Yes. Yeah. You would remember that as a brick workplace. Yeah, we used to remember that. The brick, plenty brick there.
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Yes, that's actually the industry that was.Yeah. The most common one in the early days in this area. Yes, that's actually the industry that was.Yeah. The most common one in the early days in this area.
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My boys, they work in the farm. The last one, the third one. My boys, they work in the farm. The last one, the third one.
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He was a sick for good while. He was a sick for good while.
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When he got better my boy. When they started to grow, they started to do something for themselves. When he got better my boy. When they started to grow, they started to do something for themselves.
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Later on they do something else, and later on they build the factory and they work with the factory. Later on they do something else, and later on they build the factory and they work with the factory.
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?A Rocco? Glow. ?A Rocco? Glow.
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They they got into business. Yeah. Yeah and um. They they got into business. Yeah. Yeah and um.
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Till a few years ago. Till a few years ago.
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Now they sell the name. But the still they got the factory ?rendered.? Now they sell the name. But the still they got the factory ?rendered.?
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Now one other little point of interest for people from your country coming to Australia, it would have been a difficulty in adjusting to the food, could you get your pasta and things like that? We could get the pasta. Now one other little point of interest for people from your country coming to Australia, it would have been a difficulty in adjusting to the food, could you get your pasta and things like that? We could get the pasta.
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We could, we made by hand. We could, we made by hand.
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We had to. Tell us how you made it, aye? Yeah. Mm-hmm. All you have to stick. We had to. Tell us how you made it, aye? Yeah. Mm-hmm. All you have to stick.
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In the like a big table and we had to roll, like the rolling. In the like a big table and we had to roll, like the rolling.
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When its. When its.
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When it's a big fine, we let it dry for a little while, put it in a cupboard. When it's a big fine, we let it dry for a little while, put it in a cupboard.
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How long did it take you to roll it and get it thin enough? 10 minutes, 20 minutes, All depend on how many we made. How long did it take you to roll it and get it thin enough? 10 minutes, 20 minutes, All depend on how many we made.
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But later on, you know, was easy to buy. [laughing].  But later on, you know, was easy to buy. [laughing]. 
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The pasta came from Queensland. The pasta came from Queensland.
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Come from Brisbane. And also there was the ?Malosi? company that make salami and. Come from Brisbane. And also there was the ?Malosi? company that make salami and.
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We, we buy, we didn't buy much from ?malosi? We used to have the pig and we make our own salami. We, we buy, we didn't buy much from ?malosi? We used to have the pig and we make our own salami.
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And the bread came? The bread, we had the first, we made the bread. And the bread came? The bread, we had the first, we made the bread.
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In Queensland we made the bread for 8 years. In Queensland we made the bread for 8 years.
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Bake it during the war. You used to make your own bread? make your own bread ,but when we come to Sydney, the plenty of bread, the baker come around, then we'll get the bread. Was that Australian side of bread or your Italian bread? Bake it during the war. You used to make your own bread? make your own bread ,but when we come to Sydney, the plenty of bread, the baker come around, then we'll get the bread. Was that Australian side of bread or your Italian bread?
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Australian and Italian, which one we wanted, we can get. Australian and Italian, which one we wanted, we can get.
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We never find any difference. We used, we wasn't a fussy. Yeah. Eat the Australian and we eat the. We never find any difference. We used, we wasn't a fussy. Yeah. Eat the Australian and we eat the.
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That. Then in, That. Then in,
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More recent years, there has been a great increase of continental foods coming into the Australian market. Yeah, Yeah More recent years, there has been a great increase of continental foods coming into the Australian market. Yeah, Yeah
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Me, like me, I've not got much of continental food. I like it better the Australian food. I cook my way but there are        no ?girls? Too much of a pasta, or sausage, make the continental one because I can't eat. Me, like me, I've not got much of continental food. I like it better the Australian food. I cook my way but there are        no ?girls? Too much of a pasta, or sausage, make the continental one because I can't eat.
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Some they do they like. They got the ?Melosa?, they buy them. They got a big shop there and. Some they do they like. They got the ?Melosa?, they buy them. They got a big shop there and.
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The factory. They find everything, but for me I can't eat them. No? And how long have you been living by yourself now? The factory. They find everything, but for me I can't eat them. No? And how long have you been living by yourself now?
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12 years. 12 years.
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 You lost your husband? well, we used to be the 19 December.  You lost your husband? well, we used to be the 19 December.
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But I had the grandchildren for a couple of years, they stayed with me. But I had the grandchildren for a couple of years, they stayed with me.
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And for the people that they asked me that I never say I'm by myself. And for the people that they asked me that I never say I'm by myself.
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Because you don't know who come along. But you have a wonderful family, You got your children next door. I've got the family, I can thank God for that. And it seems that you keep yourself in touch with other people by going to the. I'm in touch, I'm friend with every people. Because you don't know who come along. But you have a wonderful family, You got your children next door. I've got the family, I can thank God for that. And it seems that you keep yourself in touch with other people by going to the. I'm in touch, I'm friend with every people.
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Australian, Italian and everyone but the group I got the Australian one because they're different than Italian. Australian, Italian and everyone but the group I got the Australian one because they're different than Italian.
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It's true, Carmelina. It's true, Carmelina.
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You know they all want me. I've been counted a group Australian one of the years. That's down ?..........? after I lost my father and my mother, the Australian. You know they all want me. I've been counted a group Australian one of the years. That's down ?..........? after I lost my father and my mother, the Australian.
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They helped me. Because I nearly had a breakdown. Um. And they helped me lot. They helped me. Because I nearly had a breakdown. Um. And they helped me lot.
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Started with this, ?they care? and they come to pick me up. Started with this, ?they care? and they come to pick me up.
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Sometime I go with the bus, but uh.  Sometime I go with the bus, but uh. 
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Something that happened I had to leave for six months, or you come back anytime you want. I had, and I still got a good friend. Something that happened I had to leave for six months, or you come back anytime you want. I had, and I still got a good friend.
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They all love me, they all want me. Then you are a wonderful person. They all love me, they all want me. Then you are a wonderful person.
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I got a Greystanes to the centre  I got a Greystanes to the centre 
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They want They want
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People, they all like me. People, they all like me.
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Come pick me up with the bus. That's the community service. Come pick me up with the bus. That's the community service.
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It does a very good job. Very good job because they come right to the door. Um. And  It does a very good job. Very good job because they come right to the door. Um. And 
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They get me. They cross the road with me. They do good job. Actually, I think it must have been, it was through your connection with the community centre that I met you. I have met Noleen, your daughter. They get me. They cross the road with me. They do good job. Actually, I think it must have been, it was through your connection with the community centre that I met you. I have met Noleen, your daughter.
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Yeah, but that was that the, 1930s night then. Down at the center. That's where we met, wasn't it? You had a good night? Good night, Yeah. Yeah, but that was that the, 1930s night then. Down at the center. That's where we met, wasn't it? You had a good night? Good night, Yeah.
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I had ?the? ,They made me dance that night. [laughing] I had ?the? ,They made me dance that night. [laughing]
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What kind of a dance did you do? What kind of a dance did you do?
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The chicken dance here, but I couldn't dance very much. I had to get dressed with chicken. We had a real good time. You were brave to dress up like that. And what was this other one? We had the one I we lost the ball of Merrylands. Yes. What did you call it? Camilla. The chicken dance here, but I couldn't dance very much. I had to get dressed with chicken. We had a real good time. You were brave to dress up like that. And what was this other one? We had the one I we lost the ball of Merrylands. Yes. What did you call it? Camilla.
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The ?Conga Conquer? ah. Let's call it The ?Conga Conquer? ah. Let's call it
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?Let's call it the Conga? ?Let's call it the Conga?
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Gets in a row one after the other, holds on to the, everyone holds on to the other ones back. Gets in a row one after the other, holds on to the, everyone holds on to the other ones back.
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And you just make a long train and everybody follows everyone else right through the reception? place in between tables and and you have a great time and the person right in front, usually wears a hat or something like that. ?...........?  I'm sure you enjoyed it. I did. It's a lot of fun. The next day I had a sore back. And you just make a long train and everybody follows everyone else right through the reception? place in between tables and and you have a great time and the person right in front, usually wears a hat or something like that. ?...........?  I'm sure you enjoyed it. I did. It's a lot of fun. The next day I had a sore back.
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And you don't have to have a partner because you just hang on to someone, hold on to someone's jacket or something and you just go. Well look Rosie. That's been very interesting and I'm very grateful to you for giving us all this time. I'm sorry I didn't explain myself good. You've done a wonderful job giving us a picture of what it was like. And you don't have to have a partner because you just hang on to someone, hold on to someone's jacket or something and you just go. Well look Rosie. That's been very interesting and I'm very grateful to you for giving us all this time. I'm sorry I didn't explain myself good. You've done a wonderful job giving us a picture of what it was like.
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Coming to a new country trying to settle and have, ?..........? you know. Coming to a new country trying to settle and have, ?..........? you know.
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Different all altogether. Yeah. we had to be longer time to get to used to it, but after I will get used to, got used to. You settled down. Well, thank you very much and I hope the rest of your days are going to be easier for you. Different all altogether. Yeah. we had to be longer time to get to used to it, but after I will get used to, got used to. You settled down. Well, thank you very much and I hope the rest of your days are going to be easier for you.